How might a person do psychopomp work?
(I’ve splt your reply because I didn’t want to take this too far off-topic from S. Connelly, but wanted to reply in full.)
The way I was taught came from core shamanism (CS), so to give a quick overview, you enter a light trance state by lying down., listening (ideally) to some drumming at a specific beat - there are plenty of “shamanic drumming” vids on YouTube for an example.
You visualise, or structure, a tree - this is the interface into the three distinct realms CS deals with, and those are usually called the Lower, Middle, and Upper Worlds, although there are many branches and levels of all three.
But those will all partake of the overall quality of the World - the Lower world usually has earthy, animal-related, and natural spirits, sometimes spirits relating to one’s own Death, and it’s the first World most people are taught to visit - it’s where you find your animal spirit helper or “Power Animal” (a silly phrase butb it’s the one most used in that paradigm).
The Upper World has enlightened masters (some of them, gbtw spectacularly useless and out-of-touch in my experience) and gods, angels, Higher Selves of people and individual animals, all kinds.
The realm of the dead who are troubled is normally entered via the Middle World - this is the last World students are usually taught as it’s the parallel to our own, and therefore has a lot of troubled, lost, damaging entities and so on, and also the spirits of the diseases, madnesses, addictions and hatreds that afflict the everyday world.
It’s not something I feel able to teach right now online, however I’ve been working with Buné a lot recently (seach my posts for all the raving I’ve done about my Lady, if you’re curious) and she is interested in creating a method I can teach, safely, online that will be hosted and mentored by one of her familiars.
This IS however a tricky project, and I’m also up to my ears in both everyday and magickal stuff, so please be patient!!
Anyway to get back to basics, what you do in CS is enter the realm and find the spirit of the troubled dead person, they often appear monstrous or faded, or in all sorts of messed up states, and heal them using various methoids taught in CS, then the bit where some people struggle is, you need to open a portal, the CORRECT portal, for them to pass into - opening the wrong portal is a bad idea (understatement there) and sometimes other spirits who vampirically prey upon these people will try to mess with you, it’s a bag of tricks if you’re not knowleddeable and powerful enough to cope.
This portal you open after they’re healed is where one often sees their own deceased ancestors and so on, and most people are only too happy to enter once their fears and pain have been healed, and they see dear old mum waiting at the gate!
It’s truly moving, and one of the most emotionally satisfying types of healing work, since the dead are usually in genuine need and are ready and willing to change, and they don’t go and fuck it all up next week, unlike humans.
I’ve escorted some of my own family, immediate and distant, and I recommend learning this method to anyone who’s interested in necromancy, not least because you’ll realise that some of the dead are actual PEOPLE (necromancers often insist they’re just a shade, a mindless thing, but this has not been my experience, nor that of other psychopomps I’ve met - although such empty shells do also exist).
It’ll also teach you more than words can do of how the afterlife works, what can go wrong (and what can go right, if you don’t wish for dissolution of your personality after death) and so on.
Finally, through this method one can accrue a kind of power, and the goodwill of certain entities, which mean you’re better able to communicate with your own loved ones after death, so there are many good reasons for studying it!
That’s interesting, I have been interested in Shamanic work for quite some time and doing some basic journeying I have found my spirit/totem animal to be a grizzly bear. He’s helping me learn how to be a better healer.
But what you’re describing is really cool, thanks!
You’re welcome - it’s seen as being a bit of a softer topic compared to summoning demons and shooting bolts of death majix out your fingers etc., but to me it provides a familiarity with ALL the levels of human existence, along with the absolute personal certainty that death is a change of state and not the end of all consciousness - you get proof of this when someone tells you stuff that you couldn’t have known and you discover it was true.
And it’s no more “altruistic,” in the sense many of us shy away from, than creating an awesome product and selling it for cash - you’re providing a service that meets a crying need, and the rewards that come back to you are awesome.
[quote=“Lady Eva, post:4, topic:6249”]You’re welcome - it’s seen as being a bit of a softer topic compared to summoning demons and shooting bolts of death majix out your fingers etc., but to me it provides a familiarity with ALL the levels of human existence, along with the absolute personal certainty that death is a change of state and not the end of all consciousness - you get proof of this when someone tells you stuff that you couldn’t have known and you discover it was true.
And it’s no more “altruistic,” in the sense many of us shy away from, than creating an awesome product and selling it for cash - you’re providing a service that meets a crying need, and the rewards that come back to you are awesome.[/quote]
For example, all Runes are Death Runes… as they are tools of change. Even though I have yet to Master everything, you can count me as a Kid with a Loaded 50 caliber handgun… I AM The Master of Majix. lol =) Likewise, there are different levels of Mastery…becoming a Master doesn’t denote Mastery as it is only the beginning.
I’m interested in psychopomp work
to do someday myself. So I’m bumping this thread
I’d like to learn and read related experiences of seasoned practitioners.
I’d be grateful to read any successful, unsuccessful with lessons,
experiences. And any related links. Warnings.
Cool, bear with me on my bit - got my hands full right now with some very personal work and also mundane (but good) things that are taking almost all my free time, but I am putting together a system with Buné that will cover both psychopomp & ancestral work, and I will only hold off from giving an exact time-frame because things are so crazy I can’t say for sure when it will happen!
I made my alter for my ancestors for the first time in my life for
Euoi’s suggestion and it looks so pretty.
I am pretty happy with myself
They seem to lead me to here and there more than ever
and I am so on and off from BALG lately.
I’d be, I will be more than delighted to find related posts at any time.
Yesterday I kind of came up my own psychopomp method for ones like me
without concrete psychic/medium ability so I thought I should share.
"If you’re stuck and feeling sad, maybe you can help yourself.
keep telling yourself, ‘I’m going home, I’m going home to the light’‘’
I also added my latest understanding of soul trap:
'I heard the grid, soul trap, now has a big hole,
so it must be easier for you to go home to where you
really came from.
And if you could go back home without being trapped in the soul trap
there should be no more involuntary reincarnation
with your memory stripped, it sounds like you can reincarnate
if you want to by your will, with full memory of all your life before,
your God self. I don’t know much but trying to research
and that’s as much as I know. So bless you, good luck, thank you
Then one of the spirit said ‘RISE’
I was uplifted to hear that - felt like I could help something.
I hope I did.
– My Resources about Soul Trap and EVP –First I heard about 'Soul Trap' idea at first with Kelli Coffee's youtube where she says "When you die, you might see the tunnel of light and some being telling you to go in there, but don't go into the light! Wait for a while until you fully wake up and then decide"
As I spend more time with my local Spiritual Mission and mediumship
people, I started to wonder about life after death.
While I remember about Kelli’s above notion, I came about
to Joy of Satan’s New Jerusalem([url=http://dawn666blacksun.angelfire.com/Hell.htm]http://dawn666blacksun.angelfire.com/Hell.htm[/url]).
Simon Parkes also talks about Soul Trap. It seems like this is what David Ike
started to say. I never read David Ike but it felt convincing to me.
Peggy Kane had taken down her site.
Her latest comments about soul trap I could find so far is saying
‘the One’ had taken the brain out of the trap but it’s still working.
Simon Parkes also says it has a hole now. So I decided to tell that
to the spirits I talk with.
As disclaimer, I haven’t been able to confirm below:
if the Afterlight Box is using Reverse Speech
there is a Ghostbox live [url=http://www.liveghostbox.com/]http://www.liveghostbox.com/[/url]
where the producer of the site, Steve Hultay says it’s all
Whether the voices captured on EVP Afterlight Box is
a real entity or just echoes of emotions/thoughts like EA says.
Learning a lot from this forum, myself just asking
without sharing no experience wouldn’t be any good
so I thought of sharing this.
With respect, any advice in regards is welcome…
since I don’t have comprehensive knowledge of EVP and all.
Bump! Lady Eva, did your system come together?
I guess not!