Problem with DOUBT

@Lady_Eva thanks .

@Trilby I have doubts that I am actually talking to the demons I call . Also I have doubts about the results they will give me

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@TheRookie, There is a saying: “we know the tree by its fruits”.

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What does that mean ?

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@TheRookie, it is about results. Depends on what spirit/god you are calling, they have their own scope.

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I only call on Goetic Demons . I don’t know why but I feel like they are the most reliable

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@TheRookie, demons have their own scope, at least most of books say that. Some bring power, others love, others money, etc. For example, I wouldn’t call a destructive war spirit to bring me love and peace.

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@TheRookie In fact doubt can undermine your magic. Maybe it is a good idea to discuss your work with someone real versed in such subjects to see if you are doing it right and to check if the spirits who are answering are those you called.

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I mentioned on here before a good way to gain confidence in your ability. Do some spells that are not important to you so you do not think about them. Another way to get over one spell is to do another one or 2 following it.

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In the rhp Magickal Order I was once in I was known as Doubting Thomas. I’ve seen practitioners who believe everything get into lots and lots of trouble. But if you keep going eventually there are too many instances, too many coincidences, too many things that work out. At that point your doubt disappears. I appreciate that this may not be of much practical use, but persevere. It’s a process. It works.

Al.

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Have you had any success at all with magic no matter how small? If you did then hold on to that, remind yourself that you did it at one point and youll do it again in the future. Thats what I do. As far as doubt that the spirits you call actually talk to you there`s no real answer to that because people experiences are subjective, and spirits, demons, entities have subtle ways of ‘‘talking’’ that does not involve actual talking. Look for clues, coincidences, just things that pop up or you may be guided somewhere. Hope this helps.

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thats why i made this thread. when you read about other peoples success stories by the dozens, it becomes harder and harder to hold doubt about the efficacy of this stuff. i suggest you read through a few of them if you havent already. I suggest you start by reading the baneful stories where the target died, since that is much harder to chalk up to coincidence

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With time you will overcome it. My advice is to keep an open yet optimistic mind set during spell casting.

Everyone’s biggest problem in magick is doubt.

The key is to stop being afraid. Doubt is caused by fear of the unknown. Your mind wants to perceive it as real but because you can’t see it, smell it, or hear it, it must not be real? I had that issue for over a decade.

Getting over it is easier than you think though…
Look up psionics and start beginning your research on it. Realizing that there is energy all around us that the mind can control through it’s own “stasis” field made me believe in magick a lot more. Why would we as humans (mortal beings) be able to control the energy around us unless it had a purpose.

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Try Chaos Magick.

If you are concerned with technique, results, or dieties, make your own.

I know of people who called on Optimus Prime and got results.

Carve your own path if you can’t find one that works for you

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@serpens_album I like this idea! So far spells and manifesting I’ve done for things I’m less emotionally invested in/more confident in my being successful at it with or without magick came to fruition relatively quickly. I wonder if trying to disengage emotional investment for a time in my goal (in my current case getting an ex back) would be beneficial? I know that at the very least it would be good for my mental health to relax about it for a bit.

It seems all who practice magic have this problem. It is a great test, but the triumph is even greater when you stop the doubt

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You can always apply the same techniques you did with previous spells to the spells regarding your ex as far as emotional detatchment. It’s so hard to totally let go and not lust for results, especially when all you can think about is your ex, is the spell working, HOW is the spell working etc.

Good luck & I look forward to any updates regarding your work :bouquet:

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Recently I started thinking about this solution: instead of casting, let’s say, a sigil spell for a coffee machine, I may cast one for each model of the same brand. A blu-ray player? Fine, a sigil spell for each brand… If the sigil is that of a Spirit (or if a do a more “developed” evocation), no disrespect is intended, provided that I’m really interested in what (or, in other cases, who) I pursue through magick.
In short, like E.A. once advised in a video, shifting the focus on the fun factor; or on action and Power, according to Evola.

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Honestly I did some candle magic to manifest more money towards myself and both times I did the ritual it worked. First time I got a small raise with no extra effort on my part and the second time I did it I wound up getting more hours offered to me at work so I’m definitely more confident in my ability to make shit happen. I have a strong as fuck will so I think that helps and I didn’t even realize it until I did something that I wasn’t attached to the results of.