Somewhere around 2024, I realized that any answer that pops up in minds whenever a question pops up in mind, manifests. The accuracy was so astounding that I asked, “who are you?” And the answer was SIETE. In fact, it was even spelt to me, so recently I decided to try and asked questions that way whenever I opened a sigil and I’m happy with the results.
Sometimes, I get no response at all, but in other situations, I receive the reply in a dream in my next sleep.
Hey everyone, I am really losing my mind. I’m dealing with a severely locked situation and could use some advice from experienced practitioners on breaking a very specific type of spiritual barrier. We broke up 7 month ago.
Bringing back an ex-girlfriend and permanently cutting off her toxic circle of friends.
Over the last 2.5 to 3 months, I went extremely heavy and aggressive. I worked with multiple Goetic demons (Asmodeus, Amducias, Dantalion, Seere, Furfur, Ladilok,) for both lust/love and breaking her will. Simultaneously, I used heavy planetary magic—Saturn bindings on her to cause isolation, and Mars/Eris curses directed at her friends to destroy their lives and drive them away. I also brought in Angelic forces (Michael, Gabriel, Kamael) to force the issue. And astral binding.
Because I went in entirely with “blows” and brute force instead of subtle influence and seduction, her spiritual immune system reacted violently. My recent divinations and spirit communications confirmed that my aggressive 3-month mental torture triggered an ancient ancestral guardian jinn (bloodline protection) around her.
Absolute zero manifestation in the physical realm. No signs, no contact, no movement. The demons either give me excuses, ask for more time, or outright admit that the Jinn is shielding her mind and allowing her to maintain her free will and resist the magick. The curses on her friends are also hitting a brick wall. The whole situation is completely deadlocked.
Has anyone successfully broken, bypassed, or destroyed an ancestral/guardian jinn that was awakened by aggressive magick? I am aware of the “Scattering the Jinn” ritual from Practical Jinn Magick and the concept of using Solar/Michael energy to blind and banish chthonic spirits, but I want to hear from those who have faced this specific type of bloodline shield.
Any insights on breaking this deadlock would be highly appreciated.
note: The girl is Muslim and I am also Muslim, but she is not very religious. She definitely does not want to come back to me.
Because she is afraid that I will restrict her, and according to the angels and demons, the shortest way is to make her be with someone else and have her go through a bad experience. But I definitely do not want that to happen.
This appears to be an update on your Get Ex Back working, so I have merged the posts. Please try to keep your posts on the same topic together so people can see what went before and not waste time repeating what others already said.
So, it wasn’t working, and my suggestion 3 months ago was:
And now you got:
So now it’s not just er will, but the will of her entire family, friends, and ancestors, and family Djinn.
None of them believe you are good for her, and since you thought “mental torture” was going to make her love you and return, do you not think they have a point? 
It isn’t “awakened” is was always there protecting her and you just pushed enough to notice her defenses.
Breaking these usually works best when you are trying to undo a curse on your bloodline - being on the defense gives one the upper hand, as the universe implicitly give the right to all entities to defend themselves against attack.
As you are the attacker, you now have to look for ways to get around or through the defenses.
Your best bet it to stop going at it like a bull in a china shop, evoke the guardians and have a conversation wit them about it. Explain to them that you live her and want the best for her, and listen to what they say in return. You may be able to negotiate with them to let them back off, and even help you persuade here that you are the best thing for her that ever existed. But then, you had better be that, because they will know if you’re not.
Brute force isn’t working, try being reasonable, mature and intelligent about it instead.
Hello dear Murrbery, thank you for your response.
I just told you that’s the wrong approach - brute force is a waste of time, you have to fix the reason why her Djinn are protecting her instead of helping you get together.
And then you have to convince her you fixed it. You lost her trust, you lost the trust of her family, Djinn and friends, and you have to get THAT back.
So the first thing to do is work on yourself, understand what went wrong, and if you even want to change yourself for her, then do that and try Dantalion to help you convince her you have what it takes to be her man.
Not really, no. Her will to NOT be with you, is stronger than your to get with her.
She is on the defense and has the high ground, and you have no ammo, nothing she wants, and no options but… rape of her mind with “mental torture” - that was a last resort tactic and you were too impatient, used it too soon and blew it.
Since you’re into torture, you can try an obsession spell like the Intranquil Spirit. Anima Sola or Intranquil to get ex girlfriend back - but watch the warnings. You are on a path to become obsessed and insane yourself instead - magick like this tends to backfire a lot.
She is afraid that I will restrict her again, but it is impossible for this to change without her talking to me. I have truly changed. I just need one last conversation to prove it. According to the spirits, she loves me and thinks about me, but because her friends supported her during the breakup, she does not want to disappoint them. And she is sure that if she talks to me, she will be convinced.
Then it’s her friends you need to convince, not her. Try Dantalion - but on her friends group, to get them to relent and let a conversation happen, even if they have to be there to look out for her.
And still call her Djinn - call the group and see if they will come and talk, they know who they are and are connected to you through her. Ideally they will help you then. They will see your spirit and know if you really are good for her.
And anything you have in place now that is still actively attacking her, make sure you break those curses before you call her guardian spirits.
Okay, but the curses I cast on her friends didn’t work either. How will I know that Dantalion will solve it? How long will it take?
By the way, this barrier situation appeared in the horary reading, although Saturn had already mentioned it 2 months ago, after I stopped using the demons. According to Saturn, from now on, she will return perfectly in 3 months. What do you think about this?
By the way, I used Amducias and Orias 10 days ago to make her send me a message, and according to Amducias’ report, the information that came 2 days ago is this:
Today the horary result came and the barrier issue was confirmed and it was said that she will not return. According to the horary, what exactly should I believe? Saturn, the horary, or Amducias?
You said so, and you are the operator. if you have to ask that, it won’t work, you already killed it with doubt. This is applying the Law of Assumption.
You have to undo the Intent of the curse regardless of whether it worked, IF, you expect to be able to negotiate with her guardians. As long as you are attacking her, they will be in between her and you to protect her and see you as evil.
Nope. I don’t think that was Saturn. It was telling you what you wanted to hear, which is the hallmark of a parasite. My cards are giving me warning signs. banish and cleanse, your over state is attracting entities that are feeding on your emotions. That was to be expected and you should have been banishing and cleansing all along anyway.
Here’s te thing you refuse to listen to - she WASN’T wrong. You DID act in a on over controlling and sufficating way, your proved to her that your goals and lifestyle are incompatible.
Like I said, you lost her trust. Trust, once lost, is almost impossible to get back.
For women, they must trust that you are a safe man and will protect them from harm, and if YOU are the aggressor - which you were and are, and you just reinforced in the unseen realms times 1000 so that she knows it mentally, emotionally and spirtually - then she wants another man who CAN and will protect her… FROM YOU.
The barrier is your entire mindset and approach to life. There’s no reason for her to give you another chance. Stop cursing her friends and guides, they are you best chance to let her give you a chance to change, but you are busy proving to them why you can’t be trusted instead.
This needs tact and persuasion.
Think of the fable of the man with a coat…
The sun and the wind made a bet that each could get the man to take off his coat. The Wind went first, and he blew and blew - but the harder he blew, the harder the man held his coat around him, Then the sun tried, and he shone and shone, he shone so warm than man smiled, became hot and took off his coat to cool down.
Be the sun.
Oh dear Murberry, the curse has nothing to do with my girlfriend. It’s about her friends.
It was definitely Saturn. Because he didn’t just say that. He said our relationship was very childish, that it wouldn’t be resolved until my girlfriend and I matured, that he wouldn’t remove any blockage until we matured. He said she was bad too, like her friends, and told me to find a new girl, and he broke my heart many times in 3 months. I already did cleansings and banishings.
He was definitely wrong. Because her friends treat her badly and she couldn’t see it. I had to protect her, dear Murberry. I was already protecting her from everything, but her closest friend is truly a manipulator and manipulated her constantly.
Of course I would be the sun. Thank you for your kind comments, but right now I really don’t know what to do. Also, how can I summon her protective jinn? How will I know that it is her jinn?
Do NOT call me “dear”.
I’m not your “dear” anything. I never gave you permission to use any such term with me, neither did you bother to ask. Thanks. 
Nope - I’m not stupid and neither is spirit.
You only attacked her friends because of her - it was attacking her flank, to undermine her support network. That counts in your INTENTION as an attack on her - you don’t get off free for that.
The energy is STILL out there, that you are actively attacking her. That sets up the psychic information stream that you are a predator, and attacking her, and all that she loves.
She will subconsciously see you as an enemy, and run from you - most love spells cause this. And that is correct - you are only interested in yourself and not what she wants. You can’t leave that out there and expect negotiations to go well with her guardians.
Says the guy who was torturing her for not wanting to be with him? LOL Honestly I just don’t believe you. So far all her friends have ever done, is protect her. That’s what good friends do.
No you suffocated her, controlled her and then you attacked her with magick for telling you to take your restrictions and shove them, instead of trying to meet her needs.
This didn’t come out of the blue - she already told you before you broke up that she didn’t like being restricted, and you ignored that. Why should she believe you now?
With your intention. Their name is “her protective Djinn”. Intention is everything.
First of all, I was using translation to write quickly, and the word I used in my native language does not mean what you think it means; it is a polite way of addressing someone.
You are approaching me with an extreme prejudice. You were not there when things happened. Her friends pull my girlfriend down, talk behind her back, and humiliate her. My girlfriend didn’t say anything just because they’ve been friends for years. Even her closest friend and roommate said after we broke up that she didn’t want her at home anymore, but she doesn’t even know about this because I can’t communicate with her.
I did not suffocate her or control her. My only real wish was for her not to go to those protest actions because I was afraid something might happen to her. The second thing was for her to stay away from her worthless friends. She thinks that life is really like the TV show “Friends”.
Also, I offered her everything I could. Until the last 6 months before our breakup, there were no problems. But her close friend (the one who didn’t want her at home :D) started filling her head constantly. Please don’t approach with prejudice again.
There’s no prejudice.
I don’t care about your non-apologies, just don’t do it.
I will leave you to find out for yourself. Try spending some time doing your research, notice all the other posts on this forum that did and didn’t work and the patterns in those.
Nothing I have said there is different from what I’ve told you.
SHE think you did. It doesn’t matter what you say - you are trying to convince HER.
According to YOU, your divination is this:
What do you call “being captive” if it’s not suffocating?
Your words, not mine. You pissed your gf off, she broke up with you, she’s blocked you and you want her back.
You’re not special, and neither is your situation. I’m done repeating myself for you when you can’t be arsed to even read around the subject, best of luck.