I was wondering if anyone has information about the origins of each Goetic demon. Specifically I want to know where they were recorded first, who made their name known, and what are their first names so to speak. It would prove exponentially helpful to know this information.
Look to the ancient pagan societies of the Middle East.
Most if not all of the goetia demons are the demonic aspect of the gods of those societies.
We talk about the Nabateans here but most of the demons are much older than that.
If there’s a particular one you’re interested in then we can talk about that. I’m sure if you asked them they would tell you of their previous incarnations.
What about Glasya-Labolas? Some texts say that Ishtaran is the beast or Lucifer. Ishtaran really reminds me of Ishtar.
Wish there was a written piece, explaining the origins of the 72 spirits of Goetia…
Well, here’s something:
Bael - Canaan Baal combined with two other entities.
Amon - Amon Ra
Purson - Horus, possibly combined with other entities.
Astaroth - Astarte
Asmoday/Asmodeus - Aeshma Daeva
Zagan - Could be Dagon, not sure about this
No clue about the rest. Didn’t even bother tracing them back (except Vapula, but that’s UPG, so I didn’t list it).
I think one day I may try to find as many names for them as possible. I also believe King Paimon was known as Al Kutbay.
Could be. I’ve read somewhere on this forum that King Paimon was actually once a goddess. I don’t know if I believe that, but that, too, could be the case. I mean, they genderbent Astaroth in the Lesser Key of Solomon, so who’s to say they didn’t do it for some other entities.
Yes also Arsu and possibly Ruda.
As for your question I would look towards the war gods simply because that’d fit the description .
Lol, that link you posted, John.
“The The Epic of Atrahasis is the Mesopotamian account of the Great Flood, which was a corruption of the biblical account in Genesis where Satan rebelled against Yahweh.”
Let’s zoom in…
“corruption of the biblical account”
…But that myth came before the Bible? Before Christianity? Before Judaism?
Such arrogance, wow.
Yeah that’s a christian site so pretty useless if you want objectivity in what those past civilisations believed.
yeah thought it was interesting nothing more.
That’s interesting with Arus it says "Frequently portrayed as riding a camel and accompanied by her** twin brother Azizos**; both were regarded as the protectors of caravans. Her worship is also confirmed by material evidences in Dura-Europos. In pre-Islamic Arabia she was known as Ruda (literally benign)."
Then when you look into Azizos, "In ancient Levantine mythology, Azizos or Aziz is the Palmyran god of the morning star. He is usually portrayed as riding a camel with his twin brother Arsu. He was venerated separately in Syria as god of the morning star, in company with the astral god Monimos."
If this is true it further explains the connection between King Paimon and Lucifer.
It’s also worth noting that the great Virgin-Goddesses (Venus, Aphrodite, Astarte, Isis, etc) were also called “The Morning Star" - Lucifer.
Ooooh! Astarte was demonized into Astaroth. Maybe there’s a connection between Lucifer and Astarte? Well actually I’m not sure if the entity that the christian website posted was Astarte… Pretty interesting stuff here!
Well Lucifer means The Morning Star (also Light Bearer), which is Venus. Lucifer is the personification of Venus. The Goddesses I had mentioned are connected to Venus (and thus Lucifer).
So according to that article: Ishtar is Allah is Lucifer? The great flood was because of the war between God and Lucifer? The Babylonians corrupted Genesis? Snakes used to have four legs, but have de-evolved? No. Just no. If you took two grizzly bear turds, combined them, and stuffed them up a mouse’s ass that mouse still would not be as full of crap as that article, lol.
Haha! You made my day. If I could give you a cookie, I would.
That moment when you regret working on your visualisation skills.
If you wikiped each one individual it usually tells you what pagan traditions they came from.
Now many of the goetia do not have a full background but I’m sure if you go looking you will find something.