Making a dog or cat a familiar

Ok it’s weird but how do you go about this I’ve had ppl who said they have done this with cats is it possible for dogs to?
I just got a new dog from humain society (she was there for one day good thing to or else she wouldn’t be so lovable) she is a sweet dog I feel a strong connection to her as if she n u knew each other before how weird I say this cause I’ve never seen this dog before that day
She reminds me of my dog who was stolen same temperament and say exact personality just not same look or color fairly medium hair not long black not cream and white
Anyway I was reading my new goetia book I got yesterday last night before bed n she was watching me read the entire time which I found weird so it brings me to how can I make her a familiar In magic and how can I better understand her

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I dont see why you wouldnt be able to do it with a dog. I personally dont see uses in using animals as familars, although animals have been in known to use energy and see the other side its still difficult to do workings with them. It would be much easier to much more worth the time to enlist a spirit of dogs or a dog that has passed to assist in your works, this would still allow you to understand the deeper level of the atavistic archetype of canines and have a insider in the spirit realm to help with projects.

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Raven Grimassi has a book on familiars, with a chapter on merging the thoughtform with the animal.
I haven’t done this, but you may find the book informing.

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Thank you I’m going to get it

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Sweet :heart_eyes:

My dog is my familiar. I did not do anything special with her. She sort of initiated herself lol. She is now a part of any casting I do. We have a very different bond than her and the rest of the house. She is loving with them and vice versa, it is just different. Your pup is adorable.

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That’s not true.
Animals are far more loving and caring from being in shelters. The amount of time doesn’t matter. They are not tainted from being there.

Having strong connections with animals is Shamanic, doesn’t have to be a “familiar”.

Making her a familiar is, usually, forcing possession on the animal.
Bringing the animal into magickal workings is totally different.
You learn how to talk to the animals higher self, you also learn how to speak to them on a telepathic level (mostly images, not words).

Animals are fine in Magick, it’s not “They are familiars” or “just dumb animals”.
Look at Shamanism to better enhance your bond.

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Merging isn’t making the original animal a familiar though. You can loose the original animal.
I’ll have to read that book and see how that author works with this. :slight_smile:

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I call mine my familiar as I come from a long line of witches, so for me it’s natural. I believe every creature has free will, which is why I didn’t do anything, she did. I am grateful for her and she adds remarkable energy to what I do. :slight_smile:

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I don’t want to forcibly possess her I want to have her there in magic works I do I thought that’s what familiar were my first time asking about one actually and some dogs get depressed and scared I’m shelters that’s y I say that she chose me lol n in return I chose her back

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Thank you I believe she is a chiweenie lol she follows me everywhere now

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I find a lot that many people have different meanings based on their experiences of what things mean. If your intention is not to force her into anything, which is what it appeared like, then I personally wouldn’t worry about it. My dog just is there. She is drawn to the energy. You may find yours is as well. :heart:

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People don’t understand that animals are more in tune to Magick naturally and they do think and feel lol.

An animal choosing you and even working with you doesn’t automatically mean it’s a familiar but it DOES NOT lessen the strength of the bond.

Ted Andrew’s book is okay on Shamanism but Daemonic Shamanism by William Briar is better.

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I understand and respect and what you are saying. For me she is my familiar, that is just historically in my family how it is. For us, a familiar is one who lends their energy willingly to your work and shares in your magical life. I value her and greatly appreciate what she adds to all aspects of my life. I firmly believe she chose us as much as we chose her. I do love the Shamanic views on animals and I think it is beautiful how they are valued. I am not one who practices this though and will continue to call my adorable girl my familiar. Not in the cliche way, for me it is more.

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From what I understand, familiars are spirits, not animals. So unless you want the dog possessed, it’s a generally bad idea to attempt this.

Congratulations on adopting your new puppy! She is beautiful. Take good care of her.

As for making her into a familiar. I think first establish what that means to you and work from there.

Based on what you’re saying I’m responding from the assumption you just want her around when you’re practicing or allowing her to lend her own energy the way a human practicing magick with you would. You wish to work with the innate intillgence with the animal and become spiritually bonded not just mentally, physically and emotionally bonded.

In which case just work on getting to know her and developing the bond between you the way anyone would with their pet.

If you feel the need you may choose to dedicate her to a specific spirit.

But put a lot of thought into this and make sure it’s right for you two and why you might do this if at all.

With my cat I truly feel he was a gift from Freya and I dedicated him as living offering to Freya. I don’t care what anyone else thinks about that he has NOT been harmed in any way. The cat’s soul is still the original entity he is NOT posessed

(I also don’t believe animal sacrifice as in killing the animal is necessary to honor a spirit so caring for a sacred animal is an alternative for me)

My service to him is just also in service to Freya. I think that is enough to make him a familiar by own definition of what that means. But most days I just think of him as my furry baby.

I also attempted to communicate with him and ask him if this was what he wanted and he seemed to accept that.

There’s also a spiritual bonding that takes place and you can define how long that’s going to last. As long as the animal is alive? Does the bond extend beyond death? Through multiple life times? Some practitioners will bond their pets beyond their life span and use their bones in rituals and call upon their spirit for aid (yes that is technically necromancy with a pet)

The bond I share with my cat will last as long as he is willing. I have never felt so close to any other pet I had before as a kid. (And I was pretty close to them)

I don’t believe you can force an animal to be your familiar,confidant,friend etc If its going to happen it will be done because they accept it.

So to summarize

  1. Have a dedication ritual where your pet is either dedicated to a spirit or you dedicate yourselves to each other

  2. Define how long this contract is going to last

In the end how you define your relationship with her is up to you and her and no one else. I’m linking a topic I started on this dicussion encase you want to see what some others thought on the idea IF pets can be familiars or not? This was an open discussion not an attempt to come to any definite answer. Perhaps looking at a variety of views will give you some more ideas

Hope that helps! Best wishes to you both!

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Awww she’s really cute :heart_eyes:

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I agree with you that to me it does not equate to possession. You seem to view similar to what I do. I didn’t dedicate her to anyone, although I don’t think I would be against it at all. My friend’s cat is dedicated to an Egyptian Goddes and I tell you, I have never seen a healthier cat.

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I don’t think it’s incorrect to say that it COULD be equated to posession and that could be one type of animal familiar.

Histrorically this is a valid definition.

However when you research it it’s also one defined by the roman catholic church and part of how they defined witchcraft in order to recognize witches and then persecute them.

Pre christian european beliefs were actually based within northren european shamanism and yes they worked with animals but animals were seen as valid companions and sentient beings within themselves. They would not have seen them as demons in animal form. In fact demons weren’t really even a thing to them.

In norse mythology almost every god has an animal companion the way every disney princess does.

Freya had her cats (this is also why cats came to be associated with witchcraft in europe when the church started to villify old traditions and cats were always seen as sacred to her) Freyr had his boar, Odin had his wolves and ravens etc

You could argue their animals were seen as extenstions of them as for example Odin sent his ravens out to spy on humanity and report back to him

And since their gods became demonized thus animal familiars were now seen as demons in animal form

I’m not saying this couldn’t happen or never happens and it certainly could with a mage acting as a catalyst for this happen. For example in the bible Jesus performs an exorcism by allowing the demons to enter a herd of nearbye pigs.

It all really boils down to how you define things and what your practice becomes based on that. I agree we see eye to eye here.

Demonic posession is not the only definition and not the one that comes to mind when most people wonder if their pet can become their familiar. But I do respect the views of other people and like most parts of our individual practices it’s personal

But I do get annoyed when I read comments and articles written by witches explaining why pets can not be familiars while at the same time explaining that their pet is a REAL familiar but not yours

That’s not helpful or empowering other witches That’s not an attempt to truly define redefine or take back terms That’s just pure snobbery and I have no respect for that

We are at a stage with modern magick today where I think it’s very important we start to think about our terms and definitions.

I’m really glad to hear that! It makes sense to me the cat is so healthy. I think part of the dedication is that the goddess will in return watch over the animal and bestow her blessings on them. My cat is also really healthy but he also gets regular check ups at the vet etc

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I’ve seen dedication to a Spirit/Diety as a great bonding with the animal and it also protects them.
I’m glad to see more and more good info being put out on animals in Magick.
So far I wouldn’t say anyone’s info here is bad OP. It’s a big subject, just don’t grab a Llywellan book on the subject lol.

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