Lord Belial and King Paimon

Here, educate yourself:

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I don’t think you even want to register what I said…

Prana is a universal energy sure. Cool. Ok.

What would be the fastest direct path to someones inner “Prana” besides their own blood?

I’m not uneducated as you assume. I’m just using the idea of Prana in a different context. Here educate yourself :

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You refer me to a fekking vampire site?!
Just…dont. sigh.
I’m logging off.

Sure. You’re on a page about magick. Sorry that you didnt know what sanguine meant previously.
Not really trying to start a fight here as I had actual questions regarding the Goetia. Not lectures about chakra and meditation. I’ve been studying that for over a decade.

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Dont be a smart ass.

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It’s hard sometimes… lol. I’m sorry if I came off as rude honestly.

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:sweat_smile: Belial pulled me out once questioning me who’s the king?

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belial makes me question my life on the daily.

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Very much the same.
I’ve actually been making it a ritual to meditate on his messages before I go to sleep every night.

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According to the Liber Officinoum (sp? Also, dang Latin, just a fancy way of saying, “Book of Offices”) Belial serves under King Paimon.

He is the first of the 12 mighty ones who directly report to King Paimon.

Based on my own experience, I would agree. Belial was far more of a wild spirit, a raging fire. King Paimon was a cooler, slow burn, but gave the impression that he could turn into an inferno himself (so to speak) if he seemed it necessary.

Belial was like a well connected roguish leader. King Paimon, an emperor.

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Do you think King Paimon contacted me to get me over my fear of Lord Belial as a demon and see him as a Goetia? Cause I’m starting to feel that way a lot with my own reading / research on the topic.

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possibly. blackmagicexposed had a really great video on this topic and his experiences with it

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:no_mouth: no way! Belial is on his own serving him self!

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Could be.

If Belial reports to King Paimon, then perhaps Paimon could be urging you towards working with Belial.

I don’t hang out with that side so much these days, but I do remember the importance of protocol and hierarchy in the grimoires. Maybe Paimon will teach you how to work with Belial safely?

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Well, not according to this particular grimoire.

I’m not sure.

I did do an invocation that I saw in a dream of both King Paimon and Lord Belial and woke up with a physical scratch on my arm that went away within an hour-ish.

Pretty surprised what I saw. I literally saw like my entire life and every mistake I’ve ever made.

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“I literally saw like my entire life and every mistake I’ve ever made.”

Yeah, that sounds like Belial to me. He was big on the whole, “Tell it like it is even if it breaks you down” kind of thing when he wanted me to fix a thing in my life.

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Yea it was a pretty interesting look at everything. I felt like I was looking at it from a different perspective than my own. After looking into him a bit more I did notice the whole “Black Alchemy” subject / topic and it made a lot of sense that that’s what he does when working with you.

Can’t wait to see where he ends up taking me.

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Hmm. It seems we have a bunch of people making up stuff. I asked Belial directly on this and he told me to not listen to what anyone says regarding certain things as they have it completely wrong and are simply serving someone elses agenda based on certain beliefs they hold.

Belial does not serve or report to Paimon. Not even Lucifer, or Satan, Beelzebub or God rules over him. King Belial is very individualistic and particular about his interactions. He is neither just simply outside or inside the law; not of only the criminal mind, nor what he is about is about the word “worthless.” Rather, he is the true Lord of This Earth having sway in many spheres of life that you have even begin to witness, more so than the rest of the Gods. In other words, it would be foolish to put him in a box.

If you see him working with someone or a God, it is only because he was fullfilling something specific. Lately he told me he has been working on something specific and bigger that Paimon or Lucifer or Satan does not have a hand in, and that cannot be understood without his direct initiation that can only be gained through certain criteria (in other words you cannot choose yourself by evoking and doing spells. You would either be chosen or not).

(Shrugs) I dont know what it is. My advice is that if you hear silly things of pairing Paimon with Belial such as seeing Belial serving Paimon or whatever, chances are 100% that it is nothing more than another Sorceror attempting to manipulate things surrounding Belials influence and I was instructed to simply banish it as Belial Projects are exclusively only working with Belial and lumping other Gods and spirits togethor as this Gods preferrence tends to lean towards being… … Highly focused on single high powered forces such as him.

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So what do you think about my experience with him?

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