Christian religions say they believe in prayer, talking to god and angels etc but in reality that is clap trap my family are all strict baptist but if i said to them I summoned metatron or raphael or similar I would be branded a heretic and a huge bonfire would be lit in my honour in the back garden. The people responsible for inflicting christianity on the mass gentile population have set it up so that it is horrifically wrong to try and call these beings up let alone have them do something useful for you. They wonât help you at all using christianity to try and contact them. strike up a ritual demand that they come tell them what you want them to do Thank them and then wait for the result (reality changed for the better) Happy magick
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I think it might have something to do with the systems of power the Church wants in place. If everyone can talk to god and he responds to everyone, then no one would have to pay the Church any money or support them. On the other hand, the Church can prosper and can ensure certain people have power over others if people are too afraid to claim their own lives and use magick.
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Im not too sure about that. While I have no doubt that the Church would enjoy as much power as they can get, the whole purpose of belief in Christ under the new covenant is to have him as the intercessor of believers, eliminating the need to go through Levitic (or other) priests to communicate with God essentially putting that power in everyoneâs hands. This is why I believe indulgences and purgatory became a thing, so that the Church would still have some power and cash flow outside of tithing.
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I practice mostly lhp considered type of magic. The philosophy in my understanding is lhp tends to be the spirit controls the world vrs rhp the world controls the spirit. Absolute "will"in all things. Suicide never crosses my mind. Itâs easy to die, living is hard. If I die I die. Until then we all try to line our lifeâs circumstances up in ways to benefit us and our families.
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Well first realize the JCI religions are a cult.
The cult leader is just dead physically.
The basis of Christianity is the logos, or the words of god also his âson/sunâ. Jesus is supposed to be the embodiment of the logos into flesh, he follows a lineage of kings, he is the king of kings in that cannon. If you really wanna understand Jesus read the new testament, realize itâs still corrupt from years of change, editing, translation etc. But that will be directly from the source, not some pastor tell you what being a Christian is. The main message was love.
Iâd consider myself LHP, originally I worked with exclusively demons and mostly demons with no angelic authority. As Iâve evolved I now incorporate angels regularly, currently I work with more angels than demons by a large majority.
They offer power and they are very powerful, thatâs why I work with them. The JCI brainwashing helps but itâs far from any session in church. Angelic magick is amazing and potent. You see results and feel a difference as the days go on.
My philosophy is still very much LHP, if I have a selfish or materialistic desire I work with a demon with the help of angels, then I attack the desire from multiple angles.
Samuraiâs commit seppuku to preserve their honor.
This is supposed to be done when youâve been bested and the only possible outcomes are dishonor, or death. You choose death over dishonor.
As someone whoâs had multiple suicide attempts I do not recommend it. If youâre having mental health issues seek a professional, go in patient at a hospital, and pray or work with an archangel or trusted guide
Magick can help but mental health or indoctrination from a cult or religion can be powerful. When you start to question or wake up from their lies it can be painful.
Angelic magick offers me a lot and honestly my life has been going so much better since Iâve incorporated them I to my daily magick practice.
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In your angelic workings, you could create a servitor that feeds off the energy and zeal of the JCI egregore, to give power to your rituals.
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Mmm no suicide is not the end goal of the LHP.
In the RHP when life challenges you youâre taught to have faith that ever thing happens for a reason and itâs all Godâs plan
In the left you are the God in your life,. You do not answer to other beings âusuallyâ when it comes to your attainment of adepthood and ascension. You must boldly ride out to meet challenges and overcome them. This makes you stronger.
The physical universe isnât to be avoided itâs to be mastered and celebrated.
The left hand path doesnât regard the material universe as dirty or unholy. The left doesnât pass the Same kind of judgements the JCI RHP do.
Sitra ahra the other side, is a very real thing and we LHP practicioners can bring it to pass each in our lives. The LHP is the side of strength, danger, conscience, self determinism. This is what being a living embodiment of our of path means.
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Yeah, the RHP is all about being under the umbrella of God, while Sitra Arha is about becoming a god by the promise of the serpent and creating your own universe, hopping into an incarnation of your choosing (this may be where the suicide idea came from in the OP), but âŚ
NO â Suicide is not the end goal, nor is it an option, in most cases.
Assisted suicide, if one were to be able to hop into an incarnation of your choosing, that might be a possibility, though I donât believe in that.
I believe the LHP and suicuide donât mix, as suicide is an easy out, and the LHP does not adhere to that idea, rather, you are responsible for everything â thought, word, act, character. How you choose to embody this is the task off you and your HGD/HGA.
So no, suicide is not an option - ever - of the LHP.
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I dissagre as there is a trait of antinormanism within LHP and since suecide is something that is considerd âwrongâ by our current norms and ethics it could have its place if done as part of a longer working and deliberatly used.
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You mean by incarnation hopping or assisted suicide to exit a disease?
I think the question of it being a LHP philosophy question answer is No, simply because of the path of hardship and sorrow - which is generally the nature of the LHP, but also personal responsibility and accountability.
As a baneful working, or a magical death working for a compassionate reason, possibly, L-I-P, I can see that. As far as baneful working, it would seem to be simply setting the stage, employing actors, and then an actual working of suggestion-response as an overload.
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I am not talking about assisted suecide due to diseases or illnesses.
That is a completly diffrent question that has nothing to do with RHP or LHP and its not something Im gonna disscus at all. In general I dont ever talk to americans regarding health issues.
There is a diffrence between just commiting suecide becuse of mental illness (wich again is a completly diffrent disscusion) and having it as part of a larger working where you deliberately rip your soul out wich is what I am refering to.
The second takes time and makes sure that you are in complete control and responsible for the deed itself.
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Suicide isnât even bad in some cultures. Some view it as an honorable way to end thier lives when theyâre no longer able to live how they choose to.
I donât think suicide is rejected by the LHP it certainly isnât up to us to limit eachothers choices and freedoms as we strive for ascension.
Suicide though by itâs nature isnât a rational act that most ordinary people would do. We all inherently know ok some level that you shouldnât do that.
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I agree with everything you said.
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That second one is way above my grade level.