I was just curious, because i’ve read up that most people are contacted by demons via their dreams, or lucid dreaming. However i have terrible insomnia and MUST take medicine or else i will not sleep, last night i tried to refrain from taking the medication to see if i could maybe lucid dream. However to no avail, i went to bed after taking meds around 4:30 am and am now awake at 4 PM!
does anyone have any expirances with this + recommendations on how to work around my insomnia? thank you.
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no demons spirits come at any time it’s just when you are asleep or meditating you are more open minded during the day your brain is busy calculating and thinking and focused on the mundane tasks so you don’t notice spirit activity as much…
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Ah, i see!
just curious because yesterday night i had done a layered spell. So far no contact that i can recognize…
maybe this is true and i am just very focused on my daily tasks to notice any sort of activity.
Is there anything you recommend as a way to contact? i have done penny divination however my answers are quite vague and all over the place, maybe this is my fault for lack of consontration. Thank you!
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First of all don’t expect to get a lucid dream so easily.
Second, you shouldn’t quit your medication just like that, or be prepared for some really unpleasant experiences. There are herbs you could use such as valeriana, passiflora and melissa but you must understand that it will take days or maybe even weeks for your body to be clean from the medicines and for the herbs to start working. Which means, you’ll have to deal with many sleepless nights.
If you want to quit your medication, better speak with your doctor first.
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meditation focus on the third eye ajna it opens the spiritual side of the brain waves
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yeah herbal medicines are good try the eastern medicine and use oils as well
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Yes, a mix of herbs, a relaxing bath, lavender oil etc really help. But not when you’re under medication.
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practices such as santeria and voodoo use herbs and oils for the body and mind…
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they have bath bombs now which are good too
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when i was younger i would lucid dream often, i am aware it takes a lot of focus and patience. I heard that medication is much like a blockade towards your energy, i forget my dreams or ‘believe’ i don’t dream at all.
Before having been on my medication i did take the more herbal route, but it started to affect my schooling because i was so ‘drained’ of energy.
Sometimes i would go weeks without having a proper sleep i fainted sometimes in middle school.
I only recently started taking my medication regularly before i was quite ‘deal with what ya got’ sort of mind but my schooling is coming up again, and i needed to fix my sleep schedule because for some reason my body is prone to sleeping in the day and being awake all night.
I have always been someone who enjoys being awake at night, so this is only a recent change in my routine. in regards to taking the medicine.
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I think SSRIs are complete shit as well I’m on them and can’t stand it… but in order to keep my free government money I have to take them and see therapy… I get like 200 in cash and 200 in food so I have to play it there way for the free cash but if it were up to me I would just smoke grass because weed helps me more than anything…
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pot is also legal in my state and it costs like 20 a pop for just a gram of sticky icky the kush is best for spirit awakening and third eye meditation
i suffer a similar condition.
Sorcery helps you, and visions / astral travel can be done without sleeping.
The main reason you find those such linked, is becouse it’s easier to achieve those states when the body is in resting mode allready.
You can just as fine go in trance and work from there.
In fact, with a certain level of expierience you’ll probably prefer that method even, as it’s more controlled and you have less unwanted manifestations. 
In regards of the insomnia, i can only suggest to learn about your needs and seek furfilling them.
When you’re healthy and happy those things usually go away aswell.
Sincerely,
¥’Berion
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Funny enough i used to smoke a lot of marijuana to help me fall asleep and with my anger issues, to which i ended up getting into legal trouble and decided maybe i would stop for the purpose of the gov. thinking it is a gateway drug and whatever else. Also, now whenever i smoke alone i get quite anxious, my anxiety shoots trough the roof! recently i’ve been having a lot of panic attacks as well, none have happened since reading up on the occult however! i try and focus my energy as best i can to positivity… but medication seems to be the only thing keeping me level headed at the moment.
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well weed is legal here for me so I can smoke a joint in front of the fuzz no prob I wish LSD and shrooms were though…
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I see!
these things seem quite annoying to me considering i am so new to the occult i barely know what i’m doing haha, i am still a teen so purchasing books that may hieghten my knowledge is almost impossible considering my parents would probably rip me apart if they knew what i was doing. in quite a pickle but just trying to work around these things best i can, thank you for your advice!
also insomnia can be good use the time for writing and reading listening to music or go for walks out at night if you are brave enough
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I write cursive often, because it is not well known anymore and then no one can read what i am saying haha!
i’ve been walking out at night however, i feel like i’d look like a weirdo if i were to walk around alone in my town it’s everyones business what your doing 
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get some headphones blast some heavy metal be it thrash metal or black metal and read occult books
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haha sounds like a plan
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