The GOM “curse” isn’t really a curse. It is simply designed to make the magick in the pirated copies ineffective. The members of the Gallery have said as much. It doesn’t actually cause any chaos or destruction in one’s life or afterlife like a true baneful working would.
Yeah but damn- on the one hand that’s great, but on the other hand…that would suck for those of us who put a lot into this only to sabotage our own efforts…
I’ll just keep doing it the old fashioned way:)
The design in mine was flawed then, cause it worked fine for me.
I agree, though if you intend to buy it, keep them, the money’s already designated so pick this back up once you buy the real thing.
It’s ok, I pirated I few books from GOM and The Power of Magicka, once the Magick started to work and wealth came I buyed all those books and a few more, I think spirits know when you can’t pay and when you don’t want to
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Also, friendly reminder to all that this is the forum of a publishing company, so let’s stay away from suggesting piracy is okay, many thanks!
I meant is ok if you pay for it once you can
Eh, a spell like a book curse does not really discriminate based on intention, but by action. If it is designed to be triggered by theft, it will trigger upon so, regardless if one intends on paying for it later. I will say GOM went the nice way in terms of book curses, as the medieval examples were not as kind.
I’m going to respectfully disagree since the possibility of someone reading a friend’s book, a library copy, or (most common of all) bought secondhand where NO money goes to the authors, all exist, and I doubt theyld trigger anything despite the book being read by somneone who’s not its legal owner.
Yet authors make their grimoires to be highly collectable items, in limited editions, with the implicit re-sale value (none of which goes to the content creator) in mind.
That’s why I believe the spirits overseeing these default to intent, but that’s just my view.
Good point, GOM actually specified in their FAQ that their curse was geared towards a specific type of theft being illegally downloaded and distributed through said means, so i would not imagine it would trigger by those means.
Older examples of book curses do not really specify the means of theft so they likely would trigger in those conditions. But that was also a time when a book was worth its weight in gold in itself, where the information is of value more than the actual good today.
Thanks, I don’t know their work but it seems we have a better picture of this now:
So, the magick is like “safety catch on, will not work” but then if OP and others buy the book, that lifts - definitely no “damndation” or anything of that kind though.
Also one could not freely sell or buy copies of them, even if they were just limited to physical copies.
Yup, as opposed to “If anyone take away this book, let him die the death; let him be fried in a pan; let the falling sickness and fever seize him; let him be broken on the wheel, and hanged. Amen” that was written on the back of a Bible in 1172, which i wouldve felt bad for someone grabbing the book to chase down the owner of it back in the day.
Nah, your magick just won’t be as effective until you do. I made that mistake but it’s also how I discovered really bitchin magick when I was first starting out. It was the 3rd title I ever read and went “wow, this author is amazing. I want more.” Then I found their whole catalogue and I’m admittedly a complete fanboy
Those fuckers are on a level most serious magicians dream about getting to and they’re masterful teachers that layer their work. They keep it simple so it’s easy to write off as beginner books
Anyway, I pirated their Chaos Magick book and worked it for a few months before I ever heard of the curse. Then I freaked out and ended up buying it. You’ll be fine, just definitely buy the thing because depending on which one you might end up with a bit of a woodie problem if you don’t…
Well, from my personal experience, I know the curse does work and is not simply a mind thing because there was a time when I pirated their books (which is not okay and I don’t pirate anymore), and I found out about the curse one day through divination before I even knew that they curse pirated downloads. But I also found out through divination what @DarkestKnight said, it’s not a destructive curse. Which was confusing to me at the time and I could not tell the purpose of the curse from the reading. But like you, I still had success with the magick regardless, but now that I bought their books I can definitely tell an improvement in the effectiveness of the magick.
Should I delete the notes I took from when I read the pirated version?
No. Your notes are fine.
There is no curse. Damon Brand said this.
He said the only curse on the books is just that you may develop a poverty mindset by pirating books because you feel stingy about paying for something.
It’s just a mindfuck. That’s literally all it is. You do it to yourself.
Damon Brand said this on the Gallery of Magick Blog.
In the post you’re referring to, he said they they “hardly even need to curse anyone” because piracy comes from a mindset of poverty (Which can especially hinder wealth magick workings), so that is the self-curse he is referring to, but it is implied that they also curse pirated copies through ritual, that becomes clear from his other comments. And in the FAQ for ‘Master Works of Chaos Magick’, if you look at the old comments on the FAQ (Till you get to a person asking for advice on how to protect creative works through a curse) Adam Blackthorne says that the ritual they did to curse pirated copies was a large group ritual.
Before I concede to your argument, can you link those posts please?
The first comment and Adam’s reply to it is what I’m referring to.