Hypersigils

I saw that jackson_caulfield posted a question about E.A.'s use of these in the Q&A section and thought it might be nice to start a thread, as I’ve only had limited experience using them (consciously) muself - hope you don’t mind the name-drop there btw j_c. :slight_smile:

Does anyone have any thoughts on using these?

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i don’t know what is it. but i’m gonna do it as soon as i find out.

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I don’t know what it is either :confused:

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I find it interesting. I have never come across this, but by what ther person has posted, I could see it being possible with some theories on how it could come about. Ex. trance, a form of projection, mental influence over the physical body. I’ll have to think on this more, but I will get back to you if I come up with something new.

Hyper Sigils are basically part of an “extended” process. Example:

  1. You have a regular Sigil which is just a mere symbol. It may have a basic description in some magick book.

  2. Hyper-Sigil: One has delved into say a Sigil which connects tobmany different things and through prolonged and in-depth communion you may have developed a more pronounced relationship with said spiritual entity and gained new knowledge. So by this extension of relationship, energy and knowledge you likewise Extend the Sigil itself. An example is you have a Goetix Seal…a grimoire of a pantheon is basically a Hyper-Sigil construct as it has descriptions and in some cases some books background histories or extra information beyond the standard fare. Sometimes a spirit may give you a personal sigil to connect better to it to reflecr the present relationship. Sometimes with a Sigil one may even alter it to change and reflect its new influence. A Hyper-Sigil is not necessarily the original symbol itself, but may extend itself via its Symbolic Influence which reflect the things around it which are the extensions. Example: Batman is a Hypersigil…but then batman exists within a Comic and storyline which are extensions of Batman. One then has a whole series of comics and movies on Batman. One then has fan people, stickers, posters, costumes and an entire “Cult-ure” surrounding the Batman archetype. Essentially, Batman and all associated things act as the Platform for a Hypersigil.

As far as Entities go, they have some sort of regular sigil. But then they may exist in a Book of Shadows with a number of Artwork and other data. So these entities have Personality Profiles, as well as storylines, biographies, they also have Alternate Time-line paths based of peoples imaginations of what might happen next like the next showing. If anyine watched the family comedy movie “Goosebumps” by R.L. Stein (recent) then the characters brought to life by his books is a Hypersigil, just as the movie itself is a Hypersigil showing a Sigil within a Sigil…much like you have a Dream within a Dream: “Inception.”

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Hmmm… This sounds a little like what I’ve been doing with my comicbook.

So having a psychological and occult understanding and scientific understanding of the world around one is important. Knowing the Influence of Symbols and being able to see how symbols tie to different things is what seperates Masters from Adept mages. You may be able to do all sorts of cool things like Astral travel or dream walking or whatever, but working with Symbols and hence Hyper-Sigils is a highly refined Artform that one can of course never be too good at, as it is an Erudite Art.

Those whom think learning symbolism is too much are full of Balloney in my opinion. Its one thing to learn magick, but if you wanna get better you have to dive deeper. At some point you begin to understand the established Judeo-Xian Matrix of magick (golden dawn, kabbalah etc) by understanding and divint into this…where you may choose to do your magick inside or outside of this spiritual matrix.

Edit: I accidentally posted this as a reply to the original post so I deleted it and brought it here so you didn’t have to Lady Eva.

There is an interesting theory that floats around, although the name of it has slipped my mind. Essentially, it involved just imagining yourself with your goal. Like money, for example, you’re suppose to see yourself getting the money, the surprise it worked, the fact of you carrying it, the happiness and joy you feel of having it.

One thing Grant Morrison doesn’t explain is the occult secret that all entities are made of the five (not four) magical elements: earth, air, water, fire and spirit (I’m not going into the Chinese versions). The elements have certain properties to them, like cool and dry (earth) or warm and moist (air). It’s also known that these elements exist in the astral, before the physical. Therefore, you’d manifest those qualities by combining certain properties of those elements into some shape or form.

Another thing Mr. Morrison doesn’t mention is the other secret of vibrational theory, where if a string on a piano is played in close proximity to a violin, then the same note will play on the violin. It’s called harmonic resonance. Developing a subconscious link to the element enhances your control over it. Likewise, there’s greater characteristics and qualities to each element. Fire would not only be warm and dry, but also be associated with passion and energy.

When Mr. Morrison had similar experiences with his characters that he created, he stumbled on that harmonic resonance. Unbeknownst to him, he just mirrored some, or perhaps all since I didn’t read the article yet, the characteristics of that character. In a sense, he also just discovered bi-locationality- which is just developing astral senses in regards to an object rather than creating a doppleganger to float around.

One thing that sigils and incantations do is develop a greater link to the entity and the invocant. After a period of time, training and such, you gain a greater harmony between you and the entity. Doing relaxation techniques helps to discover the “hidden” messages to the sigils and seals.

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Yes, actually. I went through this phase of opening up my subconsciousness and linking it to various Daedric Lords from the Elder Scrolls series. I had a personal link to Hircine (Lord of the Hunt) and Molag Bal (The Lord of Monsters). Over a period of time, I just let my subconscious pick up their essences and eventually, I mirrored some of them.

Bad part was I incurred the presence of the Watchers. If you don’t know who they are, those are the Grigori-the fallen angels that do Sammael’s work. They basically became adversaries to me and my wants, as most people seem to forget or neglect to mention that Sammael is a Holy Archangel.

I ended up having night terrors, night sweats and a general sense of fear, dread and terror along with impotency after wanting and nearly doing the things I wanted to do while manifesting the powers of the King of Rape (Molag Bal). Clearly, I wasn’t a God but a wayward mortal as I was stricken by fear from those “shadow men.”

I’m glad I know I can do that but at that time, I hadn’t studied the occult like I had done years before. Clearly, those rule s were still enforced and I had forgotten the Law. So that’s my story. Be careful and have fun.

Hypersigils. . . well, here is something I dabbled into a good bit and looked up a lot even when I was still just an armchair magician!

If you look up a Hypersigil you’ll most likely get a picture of a super elaborate sigil and may be led to believe that that has something to do with it since sigils are mostly taught to be simple things to express your statement of intent to your subconscious. However, in specific sects and traditions (such as that of the Maergzijrah) sigils are always elaborate and, in my experience, can have an even more powerful effect than non-elaborate ones.

So what IS a hypersigil? The name itself should convey that it is a very powerful sigil of sorts. Most of us probably know the example of a comic being used as a hypersigil, but that is an example and not an answer.
A hypersigil takes the regular tenants of a sigil being our statement of intent turned into a visualized essence and gives it life. One thing that I can compare it to is a Tupla - now, Tuplas have a very negative connotation to them thanks to people from 4chan (dear god help us all) but what is important here is what a Tupla signifies. You have taken an idea or a desire, something originating from you, and have put so much devotion, time, and energy into it that it has become real and (in the case of a Tupla) autonomous. With a Hypersigil it is very similar: it is a sigil you work on for months (maybe even years) while progressively building upon the desire you want, tweaking it, visualizing it more and more vividly, seeing it more and more real and details. . . all the while you are pouring energy into this sigil and charging it more and more. Overtime, as you elaborate upon your desire (and hopefully yourself), your sigil will also become more elaborate as you design it, pour yourself into it, devote time to it, and it will begin to develop a signifigance beyond a regular magickal operation. After a while, just looking at your developing hypersigil will begin to give you the same chills that people get during rituals.

After the long progress of creating the hypersigil is done, it has now embodied a desire, a statement of intent, that is so focused, so real, so detailed, so elaborate, that many would scoff it off as not being able to happen due to it being so insanely detailed and encompassing. However, not only has the statement of intent/desire become real to you but the hypersigil ITSELF has become real to you. You do not have to imagine it pulsing or get into a certain state to see it pulsing, you look at it as being alive. This is essentiallya part of you and now has the power to carry out such a detailed, huge, and amazing task that you have ascribed to it. You have poured so much time, energy, effort, emotion, and your very essence into it that itself, the universe, and any other energies/entities/spirits you work with will have absolutely no choice but to bring about your desire. It is a shining gem of your abilities as a magician and a very powerful shaping force in the world.

Now, if a handful of magicians could get together and spend a year or so on one collective hypersigil. . . if a large group of adepts got together and spent 3 years with the utmost care, adherences, symbolism, ritual, time, effort, energy, workings, and absolute encompassing power on a hypersigil. . . Well, this is where major world events and aspects of human society and existence can be changed. Theoretically. But whose to say it hasn’t been done before? :wink:

All this has been super helpful, I’m starting to feel like Building Hypersigils is really what ive been aiming for in my work.

It all seems to keep pointing to those underlying truths:

  1. where the mind goes - the rest of you follows. And
  2. when you focus on what you love - you channel the forces of the Universe with greater intensity.

Kinda reinforces the importance of one’s SINGLE-mindedness, toward one’s STRONGEST desires. No more of this halfassedness, poured over a plethora of possible goals.

Also wondering Lady Eva, is there a way of knowing who on here self identifies as a (Fine Arts) Artist?

If I wanted to collaborate on a Hypersigil, or get feedback on how to make it more potent with greater layers of meaning, I’m wondering where on here I would start… Not something I’m immediately concerned by, just a passing thought.

Probably the best way is to post asking, and invite people to PM you, then take it from there.

I like the idea. Sounds like it could work, I mean if you think about it you’re creating a fictional reality and if you envision yourself in that reality doing what that character (you) does then you’ve already mapped it out and it’s just a matter then of physically acting out everything in the story. Simplistic yes but fundamentally viable. I know it’s a new-age cliché but we do create our own reality. And with a spirit’s help it’s even more so.

So what does this actually mean? Let’s say I write a short story. How do I encode my desire into it? In what way can it become a voodoo doll?

After becoming familiar with the traditional sigil method, see if you can create your own hypersigil. The hypersigil can take the form of a poem, a story, a song, a dance or any other extended artistic activity you wish to try. This is a newly developed technology so the parameters remain to be explored. It is important to become utterly absorbed in the hypersigil as it unfolds; this requires a high degree of absorption and concentration (which can lead to obsession but so what? You can always banish at the end) like most works of art. The hypersigil is a dynamic miniature model of the magician’s universe, a hologram, microcosm or “voodoo doll” which can manipulated in real time to produce changes in the macrocosmic environment of “real” life.*

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One thing I don’t understand is , how to charge the hyper sigil? The sigils require charging and activation . But since the hyper sigils are narrative, such as story, songs, poetry, comic books, waht should be the process of charging them?

In the story someone becomes a character and when the character achieves something in the story, the original person also achieves similar thing. Whatever happens to the character of the story it has similar occurrence in real life. In this sense, the character is regarded as a voodoo doll.