How did you come out to your family and friends about your beliefs and path workings?
I’ve already shared it with my wife and she is leary obviously, she comes from a catholic upbringing, yet slightly curious. My daughter who is six, one day told my wife out of the blue, knowing nothing of my workings told my wife, " Daddy loves Lucifer and Lucifer loves daddy, Lucifer makes daddy comfortable."
As I’ve posted before, I wear a ring with Lucifers sigil daily, but when I go to work I take it off, put it in a silk bag and into my pocket until I get off work, I don’t like it and don’t feel right about it, I feel it’d disrespectful to Lucifer and my beliefs.
I love Lucifer, I love my path it brings me peace, but how do you share it to your “Christian” family how to you “come out” as a Luciferian or left path follower, or Satinist? I don’t want to take my ring off, I wear it with pride daily, and strangers that ask what the symbol means I answer them honestly and say “Lucifer”. And I either get a rather laid back response and at times a rather taken back and cold response and I could give a shit about their response, which tells me what their path is. But how do Ishare it with those around me with that I care about? How did you share it if you have.
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It is different for everyone. It took me 7 years after my Mother’s death to finally “come out”, as you put it, to my father. I explained how it brought me a sense of control of the chaos in life and how that feeling had helped to stabilize me after Our mutual loss.
His response: “Well, your mother and I just want to see you in Heaven.” To which I explained that Heaven, as he believes it to be, does not exist in my Reality.
He accepts that I do not share his beliefs and does not try to push the whole, going to Hell thing most Xtians seem to; and our relationship a decade later is still very supportive and stronger than it has ever been.
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The reason I put it as such, “coming out” I want to claifry out of great respect for our LGBT community, I don’t judge and I myself I consider bisexual, which that in itself feels good to admit. But I would say a good majority of us can’t say we come from a left hand path, or Satanic family where they get it or won’t shun you for your beliefs, the majority on here as EA himself come from a “traditional” religion. So when you approach them with an alternate path that they see as the ultimate sin, when it’s not, it’s another belief they don’t want to recognize, how do you share that with them and your path, how do you coexist?
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I don’t, unless I get the impression they are open minded enough to not be all judgy about it. One need not come.out to every Tom, Dick, or Marie they meet in order to feel good about it. LHP, ultimately, aside from ascension, is about self acceptance and empowerment; self approval instead of external sources of approval. Being brutally honest with oneself is part of that process. If you find you have a problem with others judging you, ask yourself why their opinion matters. With serious introspection, you may find the cause. Once you do that, you can take steps to remedy that.
As I am reading over my post, some of it may come across as preachy; ease understand that it was not intended to be such. It is advice offered with the best of intentions while still being stern enough to warrant you paying heed🧐.
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Many people know that I work with angels, and that is already widely accepted.
I don’t need to go into detail on what exactly I do with those angels (cough). Most people have a rigid conception about what angels are and I don’t see why I should change that. If someone is interested, I tell them more, but if not, that’s fine with me.
And I don’t need to tell anyone that I also work with demons. I just don’t feel the desire to argue with people about it. What’s my gain in that?
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I just don’t want to have to hide it, as in my original post, my wife is open minded and my daughter somehow recognizes the benefits and she corrected my wife at one point.
As far as my parents go, I just pretty much flat out told them the truth of why I don’t go to church. While this is certainly not the case for everyone, my result was my step mom believing I will burn eternally, a permanent estrangement from my father, both my siblings believing I am damn, and pretty much the entire family with the exception of my grandparents and my uncle disowning me. It cascaded into some very dark times including the mental stress causing me to fail college and a period of homelessness when all their aid was cut. It was actually that hardship that made me not only see who they are but also motivate me to keep blazing the trail forward as I did not want to become like them.
Ironically, their punishment for my occult interest only fueled my desire more and also gave me the bravery to be different. When you have been crushed like that and survived, nothing really scares you anymore. So if I discuss something occult like in public now and they strongly disagree, they really don’t hold any power over me. I just don’t care lol
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My magick is an integral part of who I am, and I believe, at least, in person, I come across as possessing a depth of spirit, wisdom, and character, than makes me remembered by those I encounter. I do not shove it in their face that I walk roads they fear to tread, nor do I seek their approval about my chosen path. One can avoid hiding oneself without forcing themselves upon others. This is just my opinion on this issue, take it with a grain of salt; if you find some nuggets of wisdom within these words, feel free to take them with you, always.
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It seems this is a psychological set point achieved with time; I believe the scientific term is:idgafwusitis🤣
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What you say makes a lot of sense, my position is one that I don’t need to prea h or try to convert, but I don’t want to hide or feel I have to hide my beliefs such as my ring with Lucifers sigil I wear daily but take off to avoid answering questions about it, yet that in itself is wrong.
The ring is ultimately just a symbol of your beliefs. It in itself holds no power. However, living to the standards of your beliefs is where the power lies. Channel that into your workplace and you will no longer be hiding. Work as if Lucifer is watching you
Edit: to bring some humor into this, I cannot help but remind myself of the old “if you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine” quote when reread my first comment lol
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Both my parents knew a druid and and had a few friends who were witches when I was young so they already knew rhp info. My Dad was more interested and accepted everything straight away. My mom is catholic so she is programmed to the point I can’t say much without that path being thrown in and going into a debate. She knows what I do and how dark I am but because I work both light and dark aspects she is mostly ok with it. They are divorced now and my step dad knows nothing so I work in secret most of the time as I still live at home.
As for friends…other than coworkers I really don’t have any human friends. My dog is my best friend. But Those I consider “friends” I tell because we usually end up having convos about related subjects so I tell them at that point or if they ask what I am I let them know. All good responses. Found out a co-worker of mine is a shaman so that was cool lol most seem interested in learning about magick instead of arguing.
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I, personally, do not believe it is wrong to want to avoid a hassle or any situation which will only lead to alienation or annoying questions. Remember that it is called an Occult (unseen) practice; and that for laymen, only the barest of explanations is needed, or deserved.
Recently I came across a couple of apt quotes I had all but forgotten. They both are from Connor McCleod’s (The Highlander) mother in the Movie End Game. “Tiny minds and sour dispositions. I’ve no need of them.” The next: “If your god should persecute me into the next world, then I shall simply have to find myself another.”
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I guess you missed the purpose behind my taking the ring off at certain times. This post has nothing to do with my believing my ring has power, but it is a, symbol of my my beliefs and a sigil of a very contraversial spirit in most modern belief systems, so just openinly explaining to the unknowing individual whaty ring means could ultimately cause conflict. I know because my ring has Lucifers sigil on it doesn’t mean it has power, but it does have an affect on those around me, those close to me and thus the reason for my post, seeking advice as to how to openly share my beliefs.
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Which Sigil? Not everyone would recognize the sigil, and those that do often are worth opening up to. Of the few who aren’t that do recognize it, one can usually tell, in my personal experience, by how they phrase the question.
As I said in my original post, my ring has Lucifers sigil on it, the sigil itself brings up questions, at which point you have to address those questions which comes back around to my original post.
Some refer to the baphomet as Lucifers sigil. That is why I asked that question. I do not believe such reference is correct but I have taken note to better assist. If it is not the Baphomet, then most, not in the know won’t recognize it.
Is it less about approval and more about not wanting to answer questions? If so, just tell them it is a private matter and you do not wish to discuss it in polite conversation. That has worked for me many times.
My wife and I have an agreement - I don’t talk about occult shit and she back’s off and gives me space.
My wife is not religious in anyway and thus the arrangement has worked well so far.
Not told my brother as he indulges me already with my general alternative take on current affairs with a slightly patronising smile.
Given some indications but not the full background to a good mate of mine who’s reasonably open minded and to an acquaintance who’s interested in spiritual matters.
For everyone else I’m in the closet and will stay there…
The only advice I can give about being open or hidden is what I ask everyone who comes to me with problems. I was asked this by a spirit who has been with me my whole life so I ask others the same.
What are you willing to lose, and can you accept that outcome?
If being open brings you peace then I say be open. If you have to much to lose at the moment, stay hidden until you can soundly make the call to be open about your beliefs.
I personally don’t care about offending the public at large so I used to wear an inverted pentagram ring. I got strange and fearful looks from people but nothing horrible. Also I think more and more people are open to the occult now and with shows like Lucifer on mainstream tv some might be more curious as to how the real Lucifer is instead of attacking you. But ultimately the choice is yours, and only you will know what is right and when is right.
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