Had an interesting experience, but not sure if my evocation was successful

Hello everyone,

Im new to the forum, as i only just recently discovered E.A. and i started to really dive into the occult through his methods. I have tried doing a couple love spells and evocations, but nothing has really worked thus far. However i do have an experience that i’d like to share, and hopefully get some insight/help on.

So I live with a roommate who, for lack of better words, has made my life a living hell for the last two years. I’m a fairly passive guy by nature. I don’t generally get into other peoples business, i don’t go looking to cause trouble or to pick fights with people. I generally care to myself and have a fairly live and let live attitude. However, every now and then, i get someone who rolls along who takes advantage of my passiveness and mistakes it for weakness. This one guy I live with named Toby, has been making life extremely hard for me…and it has only gotten worse. It’s come to the point where if i don’t do something, im afraid of what might ensue the next time we clash. I wanted to turn to black magic to deal with this guy…to make his life a living hell as he made mine. This way, he’d be so busy worrying about the problems in his life, he’d stop bloody getting in my business.

Anyways, up to this point i haven’t really been successful with evocations, but something happened between him and I recently which caused my blood to boil to a fever pitch. If i had the ability to end his life with a finger snap, i would’ve done it there and then without hesitation. Thats how angry he got me. I quickly went out to buy candles because i wanted to take advantage of this anger as a way of fuelling my magical evocation.
I knew i needed black candles, but i currently live on a small island with very little in terms of supplies, and so black candles are very hard to come by. I knew where some were, but they were overpriced and i don’t have much money.

So while looking around outside, i did something i’ve never done before. I called upon the spirits of darkness, and asked them to lead me to where i could find black candles that were affordable for me. I put my total faith in this, and just let myself be led. I probably walked around for a good half hour, jumping from shop to shop, until i finally landed on a place. In the store, i finally found some black candles…and they were the same as the ones i found at the other store. But get this, they were cheaper! So i took this as a sign that the spirits heard me. So i went to the cash register and she checked the candles…and she told me that the price label was wrong, and that the candles were even cheaper than i thought. Imagine that. So i left feeling pretty damn confident in myself and my ability to call upon spirits.

Now, i had read the book E.A. did called Works of Darkness: A guide to advanced black magic…using the evocation of demons outlined in there. I chose to try and evoke Lucifuge Rofocale, because he seemed to be what i was looking for in terms of inflicting suffering on a target. I also saw that E.A. had evoked him too, so i felt that this was the right choice. So i consecrated my temple and knife, then tried to perform the evocation. Part way through, i got interrupted by another roommate (not the one i was targeting) and had to kind of stop half way, then restart again. I didn’t see anything, or hear anything…but as E.A. has instructed in the past, i acted as if the summoning worked, and i detailed what i wanted done. To be honest, im not sure if i really got all my emotion out that i wanted to, because i had to be quiet to avoid my other roommate hearing me…but I really don’t know if it worked or not. Again, i’ve done evocations before that haven’t worked, so i don’t have much reason to believe this one will either, but i may already be jeopardizing its chances just by saying that, hah. Anyways, i was wondering if anyone could shed light on this…perhaps recommend a different demon, some techniques to try, your opinions on my whole experience, etc.

Lastly, if any of you have been sort of wanting to brush up on your magick skills and wanted to try helping me take down this guy, i’d greatly appreciate it. This started off as just practice for me, but this particular situation is actually quite serious…and so its more than just practice now. To say that its a matter of life and death may be dramatic, but…its inching towards that being the reality. I’ve only left out the details because it would be too extensive, but the amount of calamity he’s been causing in my life has driven me to a reeeeally bad spot.

I can certainly understand being driven to a bad spot.
But I think maybe you should give a little time to see if it worked. They usually dont happen instantly. It takes a little time. It sounds to me like it should work.
But someone else on here maybe have better advice.
:slight_smile:

Do you believe in yourself?

I mean truly, deeply, have faith that you are Someone and that what you want would do well to happen, because it’s for the best? (Not moralistic best, just because it’s common sense and anyway, YOU want it.)

There are other skills that will aid you in magick, but a sure and certain knowledge that you will SHOULD & therefore MUST be done is one of the finest tools I have yet found, and not often openly described.

It’s especially useful if you went along with the “kill my ego” route of the white-light/newage world, long enough to see that ego is just a tool, a fabrication, and everything is fundamentally meaningless. Much easier to be a complete bastard when you KNOW it’s all a game. :slight_smile:

(Btw please check your Messages tab at the top of the page, you have mail.)

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[quote=“arianna, post:2, topic:8846”]I can certainly understand being driven to a bad spot.
But I think maybe you should give a little time to see if it worked. They usually dont happen instantly. It takes a little time. It sounds to me like it should work.
But someone else on here maybe have better advice.
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Yeah i’ll be waiting at least a few days at least before i try with that particular demon again. Thanks for the input though!

[quote=“Lady Eva, post:3, topic:8846”]Do you believe in yourself?

I mean truly, deeply, have faith that you are Someone and that what you want would do well to happen, because it’s for the best? (Not moralistic best, just because it’s common sense and anyway, YOU want it.)

There are other skills that will aid you in magick, but a sure and certain knowledge that you will SHOULD & therefore MUST be done is one of the finest tools I have yet found, and not often openly described.

It’s especially useful if you went along with the “kill my ego” route of the white-light/newage world, long enough to see that ego is just a tool, a fabrication, and everything is fundamentally meaningless. Much easier to be a complete bastard when you KNOW it’s all a game. :slight_smile:

(Btw please check your Messages tab at the top of the page, you have mail.)[/quote]

Well, for me…its easier for me to believe that i do have the power to do this partly because i know i come from a very spiritually gifted family (from my dads side). My dad is very christian, but hes done astral travelling and such. His grandmother also had a lot of spiritual clairvoyance, along with his uncle. So if this is something that can run in the family, im certain to have some of that. I’ve also had inexplicable experience in my life where the spirit world has come to me when I’ve been emotionally down.

So i know deep down that i can’t be spiritually dead (especially given my most recent experience at the store). At the same time I feel like there may be certain skills i lack, like the ability to open my third eye…to see or hear spiritual things. As im new to this, its hard for me to determine if mentally, im doing the right things…as it all seems to be like 90% mental power where evocation is concerned. I’ll be attempting to do an evocation every day for practise…but i was wondering if you could share maybe one of your best experiences with evocation that got you great results, as it may be a source of inspiration for me, haha.

And thanks for the message. i gave a little intro in the newcommers thread

Well in my opinion, ruining his life is the last thing you want to do right now. I get it, sweet revenge and so on, but think about it, if the guy gets pissed for no reason and lets it all out on you, what do you think will happen when his life is in shambles and he becomes emotionally unstable? This could seriously backfire and just make him go after you even more. Also contacting Lucifuge for a beginner is a little extreme to say the least. You should look into spirits that gain favor from people and turn foe into friend. Goetia has a lot of demons that deal with this sort of thing. Get your revenge when you are not in direct crossfire. Anyway, best of luck friend.

yeah i hear what you’re saying. the thing is, I’ll be leaving soon anyways, so i wont be in his direct line of fire for too much longer anyhow. And honestly…i reeeeeally don’t want to be this guys friend. Too many bridges burned at this point for that. Plus every time we’ve reconciled, he’s ended up starting his crap over again so I’m kind of over it. With that being said, i’ll probably try someone other than lucifuge, but i don’t really know which demons of the goetia are considered “easy” vs those that are considered hard to summon

yeah i hear what you’re saying. the thing is, I’ll be leaving soon anyways, so i wont be in his direct line of fire for too much longer anyhow. And honestly…i reeeeeally don’t want to be this guys friend. Too many bridges burned at this point for that. Plus every time we’ve reconciled, he’s ended up starting his crap over again so I’m kind of over it. With that being said, i’ll probably try someone other than lucifuge, but i don’t really know which demons of the goetia are considered “easy” vs those that are considered hard to summon[/quote]

Well its not about becoming friends, just getting him off your back and waiting for the perfect opportunity to strike. But since youre moving it shouldnt matter then. I wasnt saying that Lucifuge is hard to summon, how easy spirit is to summon depends on a lot of factors, so to find out you have to just do it. Every spirit tends to respond differently to different magician. But Lucifuge has a reputation of being one of the most intense spirits out there. When it comes to Goetia just research the demons within. A lot of beginners tend to work with that book and there is a demon for basically every need. One more disclaimer, be careful about baneful magick. Im have no intention of sounding like your mother, but baneful spells have to be done right so they dont backfire on you. If you have the chance, grab EAs book on baneful workings.

Ah fair enough. I’ll flip through EA’s book one baneful magick just to be safe. I was curious though…what was your best evocation and how did it work out for you? I was hoping to get some inspiration!

Ah fair enough. I’ll flip through EA’s book one baneful magick just to be safe. I was curious though…what was your best evocation and how did it work out for you? I was hoping to get some inspiration![/quote] Oh boy… :smiley: Go trough my post history and read the one about my first evocation. Its how I got my current girl and it was the most seemingly impossible thing I achieved through magick. Though I handled it kinda foolishly. Went all out with burning desire and went straight for blood magick, cuz I really wanted the result. It really could have backfired massively, but I got lucky. So you might understand better why Im cautioning you when you read it. Anyway good luck with your future attempt and be sure to post an update if anything comes of it!

ah sweet…i look forward to reading it then. thanks!

Never assume the evokation didn’t work. Just because you have not developed yourself enough to hear or see or sense the presence of the spirit it doesn’t mean it didn’t show. I’ve heard of people experiencing hauntings and negative side effects of not finishing rituals because they think it didn’t work even months after the ritual was performed. Also sometimes things take a long time to manifest especially if you are thinking about them frequently.

right…that’s the assumption i worked with too as i heard E.A. mention that. Anyhow, nothing new has changed since doing the evocation so im guessing it didn’t work, however there’s some things i didn’t really do before that im going to try the next time around so we’ll see what happens :slight_smile:

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