@Ravenxoxo Not to my knowledge. My late friend might have known someone who did. But no one I know has ever tried it
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Coolā¦
I would like to know. Can you post it plz
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Hello. I have a few questions about this ritual with cemetery soil. Iām going to perform this ritual in the near future. However, I have a few questions before I do it to clear up any confusion. I will take cemetery soil from the grave in which my grandmother and grandfather lie. Do I have to address it? to one of them for help or to both of them, since they are both in the same grave? 2. Do I have to pay them in any way? If so, what should I give them? 3. I will take a green card and write down my name and surname. date of birth and this manā¦ and intention?? 4. Should I hide this piece of paper with the cemetery soil and this root in some bag so that nothing spills out?? 5. How long should it stay under the bed?? During the ritual? I need to light some candles and I have to do it in the evening??Any specific time of day??Thank you in advance for your answers
I canāt really say anything about this spellā¦ But, concerning overall (occult) graveyard etiquetteā¦
You donāt have to ask for help specifically from the dead buried at the grave. You can acknowledge them, but I think itās best to leave them be and let them rest as much as you can. At the very most I would ask permission to take some dirt. It is very much advised to be very respectful concerning any work you do on graveyards. For the living visiting a grave you might accidently encounter, but also for the dead and the underworld spirits/ deities. Not only for obvious moral reasons, but also for your own wellbeing.
Hereās what I do. Itās part intuition, part been taught by other (living) occultists and Death deities what some of the overall preferences are for graveyard etiquette. Iām not sharing it for others to copy it exactly, of course, but hope it helps others get some inspiration.
Unless a spell or ritual calls for something done at or taken from the grave of a relative/ ancestor specifically. I usually prefer working at or taking from the grave of a stranger. It is easier (for me) not to involve the deceased in my work if I have no connection to them. I really donāt like to disturb the dead too much if I donāt have to.
Before I enter a cemetery I either ask some of the Death/ underworld deities permission to enter (and sometimes to help blur the boundaries to the twilight and death realms so I might cross them more easily once I enter the gate to the cemetery). Or I just announce myself and my intentions. It kinda depends on my mood (intuition) and the situations.
Leave a small offering to the Death deities you announced yourself to before you enter. I usually leave an offering of a few coins before or right after I go through the gate.
It doesnāt matter what you work on/ near or take from a grave. Pay your respects at the grave(s). I like to take a moment at the graves near where I am going to work or am going to get my āingredientsā from (or after Iāve done so, I let my intuition guide me in this), say the name of the person buried there respectfully or even lovingly out loud and leave a flower (my preference is a white rose)
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Thank you for such a comprehensive answer. Before or after entering the cemetery, I will simply tell you what I expect and why I am going to the cemetery, i.e. to collect the cemetery soil, and I will leave a few coinsā¦ I donāt have to say it out loud, I can only say yes in my mind. There are two people in the grave, grandma and grandpa, I hope both of them loved me and I love them, so who should I ask for help from the two of them? earthā¦ I know itās complicated
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still have a questionā¦ you talk about not disturbing the peace, but I would like my grandparents to help me and be there.
I talk about it not being my choice. I have my own ideas about mediumship, necromancy and such. But bottom line, that is my view, my choice. Itās totally up to you to involve them in your magick or not.
If you are just going to take some graveyard dirt and do the spell another time and place, just honor them both and leave something like a flower or light a candle as if you were to just visit their grave in remembrance. You can ask for permission if your senses are developed enough to receive their answer. Otherwise just ask for their blessing and thank them while you scoop a little dirt in a baggie or jar.
I would connect to them or one of them to ask for help with the spell only when you are actually doing the spell.
Make an ancestors altar with the photos of them, and if you want you can make a āspirit houseā using the dirt of their grave or some object of them. Always put some cup of fresh coffee everyday in the altar as if they were alive, if you know something they like (like a juice or beer you can). Also, remember to always maintain the altar clean and if no spoiled drink (always change it in the next day). To Americans it sound very creepy to have altars and offerings to their own dead relatives, but itās a common practice in other regions like Mexico, Haiti and Japan.