Experiences with Dra'talon v2.0

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Thank you guys!

TheWanderingFool, I hope you’ll be able to post the details of your working soon enough :slight_smile:

James, regarding the energetic residue of Dra’talon I perceive it like a spot in the room with high humidity. I do daily exercises to improve my clairvoyance and sometimes I see it as something blurry perhaps. That’s the best way I can describe it.
I haven’t evoked him after the funeral rite but that hazy spot is still there. I haven’t experienced any cold spots but I didn’t have a full manifestation anyway.

it's important to distinguish that the martian (martial?) effects of dratalon aren't likened to uncontrolled rage as much as they are a form of focused hostility. it's not a mindless lashing out which defines it, but the conscious desire to oppress, suppress, smother and defeat anyone and anything, at any time and for no particular reason. most people would call it "assertiveness" but that's a polite euphemism for velvet cruelty.
You're right. I realized that the more I try to suppress these effects the worse they manifest so today I decided to go with the flow and I think that if this goes on and doesn't fade away (I hope not 'cause I really like it) I might be able to use it in a productive way for my improvement.
if anyone would care to try it out some more, i would really appreciate any feedback/problems/revelations you find as a result. i believe that in comparing the experiences of others, i'll be able to better understand this whole thing. or, at very least, how to best apply it in a consistent and straightforward manner.
I am wondering if it can work without knowing the name of your target. I will try it but I don't know how effective it will be if you can't get specific on the target.
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I finally found my notebook with the funeral rite. I will be “experimenting” with this rite for the new target. It can be used with whatever entity you choose but I will be working with Dra’talon.

This rite can also be performed with multiple people acting as participants in the funeral. They will serve to affirm the thoughts and acts taking place.

Supplies that will be needed will be a ritual dagger/knife, personal concerns of target if available if not standard cursing agents, linen or fabric for construction of a poppet and a box to serve as a coffin.

Construct poppet while visualizing the body of the victim in your hands, you are his creator and his destroyer. Every stitch you put into the poppet will be focused on bringing your target to life in your hands. You are god to your target you control his creation and his demise in your hands. Fill the poppet with personal concerns and or cursing agents. Speak to your target as you assemble his body, tell him you are creating him, bringing him into existence, command him to breathe, to live and tell him he has no choice but to accept the form in which you create and consecrate as his body in flesh and spirit.

Take the coffin and paint/inscribe the sigil of the entity of your choosing into the lid of the box/coffin. Draw a picture of your target in the situation you wish for them to be in ( car wreck, pool of blood with chalk outline etc) draw the sigil of the entity you wish to use on the picture. Place the picture on the inside of the coffin,the poppet will lay on top of it when it is placed in the coffin.

Prepare grave for the coffin

Place the target upon the alter, summon or call out to the spirit to witness, empower and aid your working. Take the ritual dagger in reverse grip and hold it over your target and recite. “Spirit ____ I call you to witness this act of destruction. As this blade seres my will it issues your task, as I strike this killing blow upon ____ and end his life here so to shall you strike. As I end life in this ritual you will end his life in this existence." Strike into the heart of your target seeing him wither and die under your blade call out "As I have killed so to shall you.”

Place the target into the coffin and close the lid. “As I have sealed your fate ‘target name’ I leave you in the hands of ‘spirit used’ may he take you from this life to the next.”

Carry the coffin and place it in the hole. “We are gathered here today to celebrate the death of ____ (if more participants are present they should say “___ is dead”. He was removed from this life for his sins of __, for his unforgivable crimes he was put to death (blank is dead). For the pain and suffering he caused he is gone ( is gone). He was taken from this world by the spirit ____ to the next. He is gone, not even a memory of him survives past this day (___is forgotten). Let us celebrate this death and rejoice that___is dead, ___ is gone and ___is forgotten.” Cover the grave and walk away.

I wrote this a while back and will modify it here and there and let you know what I change. The thought to use such a rite came to me after reading about the power of the mind and about how it doesn’t have to be positive thinking needed to affect the subconscious but it does have to be both symbolic and affirmative. Hope you enjoyed.

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remember that it seems like success comes from the planning and not the execution of the ritual. just making notes and correcting them on a notepad is all that i’ve found to be needed.

-tj

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^ Yeah, I was just posting this as I said I would and could then never find the damn notebook. This will be my starting template for the revisions and small changes needed to personalize it for the piece of shit I’m planning it for. Just thought I’d share for shits and giggles.

If this method fails I will follow Nereids example and summon Dra’talon and then hold the funeral in his presence.

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TheWanderingFool, I’m sorry for the stupid question but what are the “standard cursing agents” that you’re talking about in your previous post?

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I dreamt of Dra’talon last night, which brings me here into this inspirational thread.

I’ve never called upon Dra’talon, but I get the impression I should. I couldn’t see his face, but he was a huge man, almost a norse type build. Or maybe he was hiding his face from me. We were walking side by side, talking through a cemetery-like setting.

“You know who I am?” he asked, when he appeared.

“Yes. You’re Dra’talon.”

“You know what I do?”

“Some. I hear you’re good at killing.”

He laughed, and then his entire demeanor changed, and most seriously replied, “And you have some you’d like dead, don’t you?”

At which point I woke up. Slightly unsettled. Maybe some future plans should be pushed forward. Hmm…

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That was my dumbass fault for just typing what I had in my notebook. I was talking about certain herbs I’ve used to curse before vandal root, red and black peppers, Spanish moss stuff like that. I use a lot of hoodoo stuff in my magick and have just recently delved into the more ceremonial aspects of magic.

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i believe he means things like hair and fingernail clippings. standard “cursing agents” for inclusion in the poppet. i can’t speak as to what was meant, and the pills are kicking in pretty hard right now, so this is just my half-baked opinion. the wording is a little strange in the previous post, but i think it means that if their personal concerns are not available for use (which could be hair and fingernails?) then the standard cursing agents could be sulfur, aesphoetida, poisonous herbs like henbane, hemlock etc.

fuck i’m starting to hallucinate hard…

i’d also include a copy of Poe’s Ulalume. or Annabel Lee.

[url=http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/annabel-lee/]Not Found

it’s brutal.

TS Eliot’s Wasteland is brilliant, too, and the Love Song Of J. Alfred Prufrock.
his Second Coming is worth taking a look at, for those of us who don’t look favourably upon christianity, but as far as death goes, Poe’s the master and Annabell Lee is a great example of the love and loss themes Poe played with. Ulalume strikes a little too close to home, on so many levels, it would be hard to use it without also condemning oneself.

check them out. poetry is the bridge between mankind and his magic.

-tj

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@draks

yesterday i found a branch laying on my front yard which looked exactly like dratalon’s sigil. the relative lengths of the lines, the angles and everything matched up almost spot on. in fact, i think the branch would make a better sigil than the one in the book. there were some subtle differences, but when i thought “oh, that looks like dratalon’s sigil”, it actually felt like it was, very much, the sigil of dratalon, having materialised through an act of nature (as opposed to my drawing it out on parchment).

i’ll take a photo in the morning and see what y’all think.

i haven’t seen results from my recent multiple target curse so i’ll have to call him up and find out what’s going on. he doesn’t speak much, tho.

i take it you have a few targets you would like him to take care of?

-tj

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ah and just an aside…

when i did my creative magic that worked really well, i was planning a painting i was going to have commissioned by a professional artist. in essence, it was a snapshot of an event (so there was no time element). the poses of the figures, the colours of things, the textures, how light would be cast, the weather outside the scene, and all the little bits and pieces that made up the place were all added and perfected, and every single one had some kind of deep significance. there was no ritual as such, or any actions or poppets or anything of the like. if i were to do a funerary version, it would be a snapshot of the church or whatever, with details of what people were wearing, where they were sitting, who was crying, who was looking at what, how the preacher was dressed, how the coffin looked, whether the coffin was open or closed, the colours of the flowers, personal belongings of the deceased etc. but everything has to have meaning, and the more revisions you make, the more precise it becomes. you could also write a eulogy as an aside to make the whole thing more interactive. the snapshot could you yourself at the podium reading the eulogy which you could also write (and spend time perfecting). you could use that eulogy in ritual with dratalon if you wanted, but i never had to go that far. just writing out the details of the scene was more than enough.

-tj

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Every time I had manifestation before ritual I achieved it by planning the ritual itself. The more detail I delved into, the state of mind while completing each task, the orations, the symbolism involved, tools used etc. I would see myself performing the ritual, see the visualizations I described, see the intangible forces moving about etc. In a way I was performing the ritual,every time I revised it I was performing the ritual in a new more streamlined and potent fashion.

We’re basically on the same train of thought heading to the same station we’re just sitting in different cars.

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yep. it’s all new to me tho so it’s still a blast:)

-tj

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I’ve been working on revising and editing the ritual all week. Although I haven’t felt Dra’talon’s presence or experienced any dreams of him I have been feeling the added hostility/assertiveness that Tiberius James and Nereid have described. I’m usually pretty laid back and just a smartass to anyone who pisses me off, now I’m getting hostile.

This morning while running errands with my fiance a shopper insulted her and I came unglued, I literally heard a voice repeatedly saying “Hit this bitch” it escalated to the point where I got in his face and told him if he was looking to get fucked up I’d be happy to help. I refused to back down until he apologized. I’m having daydreams about killing my target, I see myself stabbing him in the throat and see him wincing and gurgling blood or see him being murdered in some violent fashion. Definetly not my normal thinking. I’m also getting hostile with anyone who disagrees with me as if they’re challenging me and feeling the need to retaliate by verbally crushing them and make them feel inferior.

Hopefully I’m just tapping into what I need to get this done but I kind of like it at the same time.

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I forgot to mention I’m back to my original target since beginning the project, the new target had gotten himself arrested and charged with some serious crimes that will keep him out of the way for a long time and also have him living in a dangerous environment should I wish to send Dra’talon his way later.

Ok, got word today that my target had his last surgery and came through it fine. I’ll be stepping up my planning with the actual creation of the ritual items and finish with a proper evocation of the demon should my target not die before then.

I also think I’ve discovered a hiccup in the planning/ritual. When planning out previous rituals that had desires manifest before hand I had full intentions of performing the rituals so the planning was just that. With this intentional planning I’m doing now I feel as if I consciously know that this is the ritual so to speak and puts a different kind of pressure in the planning phase.

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I was also thinking about this thing. When you said that you had results manifest before doing any ritual I started thinking that it worked because you were just planning and the planning may have not been an actual part of your ritual. So I was really stressed about it, fearing that it might not work for me because of that.
The more I think about it now I believe that what helped me the most regarding this issue was the set date for the ritual. It really helped me calm down and see it as a step leading to the ritual and not as the ritual itself.

I evoked Dra’talon again for another issue that’s been bothering me for a while now. There was no physical manifestation (or if there was I couldn’t see it), I only felt a draft of air behind me. However I feel like I will have to open a thread for this to see if there’s anyone here who has some advice on how to proceed with it…
After the evocation I had these feelings of aggression again. I went to the gym and there were two girls who were making fun of how thin I am. They were standing close to me and they thought that I couldn’t understand them but unfortunately for them it was my mother tongue they were speaking. I had a brief black out moment caused by extreme anger and I was ready to go and ask them if there’s any problem. It faded away pretty fast this time but after that I was feeling that if anyone bothered me or provoked me I would beat the hell out of them.

Anyway, my target’s wife is having problems with the law now and this makes me really happy. That’s what I had asked from Dra’talon, to kill him and if possible to make whoever was covering him up to suffer.

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Thanks for the follow up and the insight Nereid.

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Nereid, from what I understand about women is that they only make comments like what you heard because they want what you have, so ultimately they are jealous. So I would take it as a compliment, all women wish they were skinny.

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Judging from the adjectives they used to describe me I would say that they were just being mean but I don’t really care. It’s just that at that moment I was extremely angry for some seconds and that was both interesting as a feeling and a bit scary at the same time.

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True, I suppose the next time you want to carry out your revenge again (nice job by the way, too good), you can drum up those emotions in ritual to annihilate your target.

This thread has been quite informative. Yourself, WanderingFool and TJ have given me some pretty powerful insights into how to fine tune yourself in these sorts operations…now time to find a target rubbing hands together mwahahaha.

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I can’t speak for Nereid or Tiberius James but if you start working with Dra’talon your list of people to kill will likely grow or at the very least they’ll be put there for consideration. Since beginning this I’ve been rather shocked at my level of aggression, if I run into someone giving me a problem if I don’t or can’t set them straight right that moment I’m thinking “fuck it I’ll kill him later.”. I’m not sure if Dra’talon is just that eager to work or if he just brings out that side of people. Reminds me of the saying if all you have is a hammer to work with all your problems start to look like nails.

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