What does it mean to you, is the most important question ^^
In my opinion it doesn’t literally mean becoming a god. It means becoming like a god.
What does it mean to you, is the most important question ^^
In my opinion it doesn’t literally mean becoming a god. It means becoming like a god.
Yes it means you have the ability to perform magick to the level of a god… how you want to use those skill is a different issue.
You don’t have to be LHP to want to do this and LHP doesn’t have a monopoly on people’s philosophies or attitudes. there’s no rule that says you can’t be x if you believe something that also happens to be adhered to by people who identify as followers of the LHP.
The skillset is not the same thing as the intent with which you use it.
According to E.A., becoming a living god means developing three skills to mastery: he has a course for each of these on the main site for this reason.
Master these and you can effectively operate with God-like abilities:
Self deification is a different thing in my mind, but maybe it’s meant to be the same idea just a bit more vague about the how. In my mind, it’s a bit… vague. If you can do all that then I’m good. I already AM so, whatever the whole “godself” thing is, I’m not sure nut to me feels kinda redundant. But I’m not LHP, I feel that’s a too-limiting philosophy and I’ve never been much of a joine anyway.
The LHP is not something you follow. It’s something you walk individualistic with self-deification as the primary goal. What self-deification means may be subjective and Koetting have one example of what self-deification can be.
This doesn’t make any sense - “something you walk” and “something you follow” … towards a goal are the exact same thing. It’s a philosophy, an attitude to your magick. It is not the magcik by itself.
Some people take it this way I’m sure, you’re an example, but not all of them. You can’t speak for people you don’t know.
The term “left” comes from the translation of the Latin “sinister” meaning left, and was create long before English was developed. Sinister today is still used to mean scary, evil and malicious. “Having sinister intent” means, “having intent to harm”.
We have had many conversation here about what LHP is and there is no consensus agreement, it’s kind of a catch-all term that most consistently means “black Magick” meaning, self-serving magick, regardless of whether or not it hurts others.
So there are many self-define LHP people who do not have this goal in mind - some of them are atheists and don’t believe this is a thing even, that the reason you should be LHP is that there is nothing else so you should be self serving for this reason - so are you saying they are not LHP despite them following what many people do consider LHP is?
I don’t think you can claim to speak for all practitioners. here it’s something you personally judge other people to be, regardless of their actual intent or how they explain themselves. Some define themselves as LHP merely because they do black magick, and that’s valid.
I get that humans are going to judge regardless, but I suggest you also listen t them too about hier own philosophies. If they say they are seeking enlightenment I’m not sure you can accurately do that without self deification but they could also be say Lightworkers, that do not intent others harm ad do not do black magick.
The whole lot is pretty subjective, yes, it’s philosophy not objective by definition. There’s plenty of philosophies that can be used to label others, and that’s useful because labels are a tool for other people to use to communicate and put things in context. That’s why it’s not helpful to randomly ascribe a label that isn’t used by someone to them without having them agree, all you’re doing is misunderstanding what they are trying to say from a philosophical perspective.
Why would you consider self deification to be essential for enlightenment ? I feel that I am on a path of enlightenment and I do feel luminant at times, but I DAMN sure do not want to try to morph myself into becoming a god. I’m no more interested in becoming a “god” than I am interested in becoming a horse or a blue whale, and in MY opinion changing species is not possible, nor even remotely interesting.
I didn’t say that.
LHP and RHP are spiritual practices that both origins in hindu tantra. The LHP origins in vamachara which was going against the natural flow and bend the spiritual to the will of the ego. This was therefore considered to be heterodox and sinister. The hindu Aghori is probably the most known vamachara cult.
For me it goes beyond the atheist/theist debate. It’s not about if the gods are believed to be external beings or not. It’s about what the practices brings you. Many Satanists for instance choose to walk the left hand path because it increases their personal power in the material world.
My apologies. I misunderstood something along the way.
Luciferians would say that the self-deification comes through the enlightenment.
Thank you. I have not had much conversation with them and was not aware of that belief.
He’s definitely talking about the christian, muslim and jewish god. lol
Lilith was recorded in judaism, but that doesn’t mean she comes FROM that. It’s different. She’s the queen of the Qliphoth.
Yep, she’s been completely watered down. Some folks even say men can’t work with her, which is simply hilarious
Which was invented by a rabbi, Isaac Luria, making it a Judaic concept. The idea was eventually expanded by other Kabbalists and eventually occultists.
Lilith is a Jewish demon. That is her origin. She did not historically come from anywhere outside of that religion lol
The etymology of her name has Sumerian and Assyrian roots but she is a distinctly Judaic creation. She came into being during the Babylonian Empire, which was a melting pot of many different cultures.
I believe Isaac channeled that info because it can be confirmed by many black magicians such as myself, having Lilith as my patroness.
For example, I can channel stuff right here where I live and it wouldn’t make my channelings “south american”. Yes, this is where I live, but that information did not come from my country. Gosh, it didn’t even come from this plane . Sounds like nonsense to me
Sorry but channeled UPG does not beat the historical record. UPG is nothing but subjective belief, the historical record is objective fact lol
What Demons and Gods are Superior/More Powerful than the Abrahamic Deity?
Can you bind the Abrahamic Deity
And Any of his Spirits without calling on his names?
That’s like asking what demon is the most powerful. There is no real answer to that.
By binding a spirit, you’re basically tethering them to an object that they can come and go into as they please; you’re not exactly subjugating them, as they would have to consent to being bound. This isn’t like fictional media where someone sealed away an ancient entity.
Here’s a tutorial:
I asked because I was reading somewhere on this forum and someone mentioned Commanding a spirit in the Name of It’s Superior
Example: “In the Name of Lucifer I Comman you Pazuzu to Manifest”
It probably sounds stupid but please remember this is but a poorly written example to get my point across