I asked you if witchhunts were okay with you because you have this “only the weak fall down, and they deserve it” argument going on.
I think education and knowledge are always good, but if I think magick is harming someone, I will try to encourage them to acquire balance or find a less destabilising paradigm. I have done that countless times on here.
Most ideologies start out with good intentions, and ALL have some positive aspects, but manufacturing deliberate traps (or knowing they exist and not warning someone who’s unaware) seems purely malicious.
Agian, is the right to create even the most harmful and addicting porn (or food, or whatever else) to be totally protected from criticism, while people must suffer and die as a result?
The failing is having a society where people who set traps are protected, while people who fall into them are deemed to be less important.
The trap-makers can surely be thrown into jail then, since it will only take them a few lifetimes of this happening to realise making traps isn’t acceptable.
Making a trap is a conscious willed act, falling into one you didn’t know existed is not.
See Divine Paradox, above.
We can rationally decide whether the need to make traps for others is as important, as necessary to the maker, as other people’s desire not to spend a lifetime struggling to try and escape, failing, and having to handle the fallout over multiple lifetimes.
Again, trying for a world where setting traps for others is largely discouraged would allow us to see how that worked out.
What doesn’t kill you, doesn’t always make you stronger, or PTSD would not be a real thing (along with its spiritual analogues, soul-loss and past-life traumatic imprints).
Firstly, do the trap-makers lose more if they are not permitted to make their traps, than people who fall into them could lose?
Secondly, is a society with traps everywhere a thing I find personally important to either defend, or end?
Thirdly, what seems to be the effect of allowing unlimited trap-making on the a society, does it lead to more general happiness, or more general pain?
And so on.
For example a society that gave all high-schoolers a 3-month course of daily heroin injections, then left them to sort themselves out, because heroin manufacturers wanted to create a market, may not really be very nice to live in.
Scale that down to allowing heroin ads in school, promoted by cool celebrities and with zero warning about the likely effects of prolonged use, and the parallel gets closer to what we’re talking about here.
So if you saw someone from a culture with no wall sockets about to do this because they genuinely didn’t understand the consequences, would you also think that was fine?
Again, you defend the trap-makers at all costs, as though they alone are immune to any criticism. This is what I disagree with.
There is nothing remotely natural about modern porn, it’s availability, and the methods it’s delivered by, something which has already been covered in a link above.
If you woke up tomorrow and someone had covertly spiked your food with a highly-addicting opiate that caused suffering the moment you began to detox, and you didn’t realise this had happened until you started feeling the effects and needing more, would it still be “your own stupid fault” for not running drug tests on your food?
Or would it be the fault or the asshole who did this to you?
But they don;t know the consewuences, until now, and as long as people dismiss Nofap as mindless puritam=nism, nor can they make an informed choice.
Psych studies show people are more loss-averse than inclined to try and gain (will try to avoid losing a $5 note they were just given rather than try to double it, even of the odds are the same).
Yes, I think so.