I’m still new and trying to find my official style of practice. My two favorite fantasy’s that inspired me on the path, was Star Wars and Lord of the Rings.
17 percent Wizarding World movies, on that I intent to test the potential of wand magic in the future.
And 18 percent of The Sorcerers Apprentice.
Watching one of the Hobbit movies I saw a scene where Gandalf spoke a sentence in the Elven language with intention.
Words of power. Light force energy
And in the extended version of Fellowship of the Ring, he spoke in the language of Mordor. A darker force energy.
The closest I could find is enochian language and alphabet.
Now I’m one of those people who doesn’t believe in one god, and read a lot about those Yahweh posts.
But I’m not here to discuss on religious belief.
I’m here to ask you more experienced practitioners on an important question for me.
Though the enochian language was taught to mortal men by the angels, does the language actually belong to them?
Or is it just words of power they learned and mastered and then taught humans?
The Enochian language belongs to the angels and cacodemons just as much as the so called “Demonic Tongue” belongs to the Goetia.
In my experience, not every angel speaks Enochian, though I think they all have an innate understanding of it.
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Perfect! That’s a good enough answer for me! Any books you would recommend for a beginner like me to start with. Like and enochian dictionary or something?
Enochian is one of the languages of God/Source… The angels know that because they were the first beings created by it.
Dealing with the Enochian beings is a lot of times described as dangerous by a lot of the magical texts. I would suggest studying banishing and the other parts of protection. You cannot be too careful in the occult.
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Wait is enochian and demonic tongue the same or something? I just got an enochian dictionary, so I would like to know.
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No, they are not the same. Enochian is more potent.
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Well one (Kelly said it was demonic), John Dee believed it was angels until he confronted Kelley and found out he was being duplicitous.
There is an entire book on the history of the Elizabethan and Enochian magick lore called John Dee and the Empire of the Angels that explore the entire concept in a great depth and magnitude that is utterly fascinating. I’d recommend it if you are wanting insight.
It depends who was truthful. If Edward Kelly was lying to Dee and conjuring a demonic spirit then it’s not angelic, then it’s not angelic. But if he was lying about the demonic scrying then he was just messing with Dee as there is the affair with Dee’s wife angle that complicates the picture and makes things messy.
John Dee and Edward Kelly had a fall out because of this alleged deception on many levels, and Kelley sold out the secrets for fame.
Read the Empire of the.Angels, it’s a really good illustration into the history of Enochian magick. I am torn, I don’t believe it’s conventional angels, but archons perhaps. It’s not infernal demonics either. Some type of hungry spirit.
Perhaps a djinn type of spirit. Maybe even earth bound dead spirits of the witches killed in the crusades (the renaissance anima sola of pagan Europe) There were legions multiplying that need to be considered. Hungry, earth bound dead.
People are caught in the angel vs demon paradigm but perhaps it’s more in the grey. Consider the land context, the geography and the spirits around them at the time they were scying. Europe, 1600s
Then creating an entire cipher what could be both archons and earth bound dead burnt witches (hypothetically) would be insane, the fuel that drives the entire world and power to keep feeding the egregore… oh mCreating a cipher involving both archons and earthbound dead burnt witches would be incredibly intriguing, serving as the fuel that drives the entire world and providing power to sustain the egregore. 
I’m.just playfully speculating but its all a potential in the quantum field 
I don’t think these spirits are any close to the spirits of the dead… It can be that maybe there some type of Yoginis (Nature spirits that can bend reality to their will) and Dee and Kelly by the lack of understanding of spirits from other cultures, called them angels or demons, since for the Elizabethan people any spirit could be put in that category. Either way, angels are a good way to call them, not because they’re “servants of God” but because they are messengers of your Will.
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Some of you made my brain hurt a bit. But still love the information. I still like the information.
My brother had given me the book, and i had read it, put it under my pillow for a few weeks and tbis presence came into my house very strong presence i feel it has called havoc in my life just a lil, but what i feel from it is that its the same presence that John had been speaking to i just haven’t and/ or even been kinda afraid to ask what he wants, or maybe it has been speaking to me and i dont understand what he is trying to say or understand how he is coming across.
What book are you talking about?
The complete enochian dictionary
You can feel the energy thats it has just by holding it.
I have the book in pdf form.
But perhaps I should try to save and get the actual book. For now I’m taking note on my pdf. I might try to make my own spells and incantations using the language. I got it out of wanting to do magic like Gandalf does in the elvish language in the movies after all.
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