[quote=“Yuri, post:2, topic:3630”]I think your description limits magick in many ways. If magick is the bringing in of change in our perceived reality then we can accomplish this in many more ways than the tools and methods you list. One could simply stare at a candle and apply will without permission slips like the spirits or the planetary energies. Another option is to enter the dream lucidly and create change in your physical experience, think things like healing or removing blockages, but also the attraction of situations.
I also think mentioning the astral boxes your options in too much. If for example you evoke a spirit and ask it to do harm to one of your enemies, and that person walks down the stairs and for some odd reason misses one and breaks a leg… are you certain that happened on the astral first? One suggestion at the right (or wrong time and pop.
I think in the end Crowley said it best and to add to that statement is to add limitation. Magick creates change, and it does so under will, for without our will to give a desire life isn’t it just business as usual? However you do it beyond that is a limitless ocean of possibility as far as I’m concerned.[/quote]
So then we could use the definition I composed, but include personal will and Shakra energies, yet remove the astral plane. Certainly, I didn’t mean it to read as though one needed permission from other intelligences. Let’s come up with one that really hits everything.