Creating A "Cabinet Of Invisible Counselors"

Janeway did that with Davinci all the time
Star trek voyager- mad sea dog´s the Portuguese

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Yeah, that just happened yesterday - I was asleep for three or four hours when Virtual David Neagle jumped into my dream and started talking to me about stuff that then (when I got up, grabbed the fake phone and went through the usual routine) carried on well into waking, giving the dog some food, having a cup of tea… he made some really good points about a lot of things that I’ve spent most of this morning reviewing, and seen where he stopped me kind of sleepwalking into repeating an old pattern that wouldn’t be helpful to my present-day goals.

It was incredibly useful and insightful, and yet arguably all a construct of my own mind, based on my study of the works of a man I’ve never met.

Have I created a David Neagle personality inside my own mind that’s capable of over-riding a standard and random dream (it started out with me in a laundry back where I lived a few years ago), then of waking me up halfway through it, and giving me insights that don’t belong in Eva’s head automatically? Or was it some mystical cloud of the real man’s higher consciousness permeating my mind, which was attuned to receive his ideas because I respect him so damned much? I don’t really care! :wink:

“Real” and “imagined in your head” are sometimes blurry anyway in magick, but this example was so striking I had to share - what counts for me these days is what works, and this experiment has consistantly delivered the goods.

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Lovely isn’t it? The cool thing is that the more you prove the concept to yourself, the more your subconscious allows this to happen in greater significance and frequency (because our idea of “it’s not real” is a huge dampener).

I like to believe that “as above, so below” applies to everything and as such view what is in the mind the same as outside the mind. So where does your intent to re-create the consciousness of Naegle end and the infusion of what he was at his peak start? I think they dance a merry dance together and the more you play with it and allow it to grow, the more you’ll see the lines blurring. Keep us updated please :wink:

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I will!

Poor guy… hope he never finds this forum, I’d be totally horrified.

Anyway, the one in my dream was kinda spacey, as in, addressing the overlap between the situation in that dream, and in my current life with this lady I know (it’s a thing to do with a pattern I repeat at work) - that was kind of metaphorical, but then when I woke up from it, I was still in place of understanding the importance of this insight, so I got onto the phone I bought and then it was very obvious that it was my internal Virtual David that took over…

BUT, the fact is that intelligence intervened to turn a random dream into a lecture and then somehow woke me up from REM sleep, without horror or fright or the usual stuff that wakes people up from nightmares, which was pretty cool.

I’ve added a Virtual Deanna Troi since I last posted, she asks me how I FEEL about certain things, which is actually a useful counterbalance to my existing “team” of imaginary buddies - she’s helped me troubleshoot a few things and also proved that a fictional character can serve as well as a “real” person." :wink:

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Okay froods, call up Monsieur Hercule Poirot - a friend of mine who’s too crazy for most forums asked me to talk to the fictional character of my choice, I chose Poirot because I got his DVDs as a gift recently (TV series with David Suchet).

Poirot is AMAZING - look up Suchet’s representation (there’s got to be some stuff on YT) and walk into his parlour, and ask ze questions which are perplexing you, or otherwise take a tisane with the number one mind in all Europe…

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Update: these people are more real than we think.

We recently watched the TV series, Hannibal, and it’s as good as everyone said - I was impressed by Lecter’s intellect, so briefly invited him to my “Cabinet.”

The result was little short of a disaster, in that he only wanted to advise me to do things which were patently against my own best interests, to kind of wallow around in the darkest, most primal mud of my own psyche, and in no time whatsoever he had begun attempting to manipulate me into actions that seemed to have no purpose except serve his agenda - even though he’s not “real” (this was not an evocation of the character’s egregore, it was a creative act).

So, I withdrew my energy from him and banned him from my cabinet - permanently!

But this was at least a useful demonstration that these beings are very much imbued with the “life force” of their character, and can’t be edited and amended lightly. This knowledge was very useful, and worth the aborted experiment.

I’ll be sticking with Poirot for the brains of the operation - he’s sweet, slightly flirtatious, and altogether not a manipulative psychopath! :slight_smile:

(I know, I know - in other news, water still wet. Duh! :smiley: )

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Thank you for this

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Just bumping this in case it;s useful for newer members, thinking outside the box of what’s “real” and what’s not is always useful IMO… :smiley:

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I kinda want to evoke Goku or a sexy big tiddy anime waifu and just talk about fighting and sexx. Lol. Or anything else

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Care to give a few of the defining characteristics, IYO, that separate communication with imaginary friends from communication with spirits? :slightly_smiling_face:

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Feel is different, and where I posted that one of these evolved, the feel changed slightly; other differences are the quality of response, manifesting in an unexpected form (especially on first evocation), the quality of manifestation, ability to pass information I am not even subconsciously aware of… but mostly feel.

Like the difference between a real and a fake pearl, they may look the same to someone who doesn’t know, but interaction is like “the tooth test.” Or the difference in resolution and complexity between a 16-colour gif and a high-resolution jpg, or a tiff.

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This type of work is done in NLP quite a bit, as a combination of supraluminal communication, and trance possession for learning new skills.

Milton Erickson used this technique to do shaktipat, where he taught his students to do Ericksonian hypnosis by going into their minds and doing the work from inside of their heads. One student was so impacted by the trancework and impression of Erickson on his mind that he began answering questions only Erickson knew the answer to, and even developed a limp (Milton Erickson suffered from polio as a child, which left him limping his entire life).

Drs. Vladimir Raikov and Georgi Lozanov used this somnambulist hypnotic technique to teach Soviet university students how to do high-level performance events such as the Olympics and International Tchaikovsky Competitions in the 60s and 70s.

The technique is fully explained as the Carsons’ CIA Pattern, which expands out to become John Overdurf’s Deep Trance Identification technique.

Napoleon Hill combined the Cabinet of Invisible Counselors within, with the Master Mind Alliance.

The technique is very powerful, and it really works.

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You’ve just given me an interesting idea for an experiment there, thanks! :+1:

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I gave this a try today with an old phone because I really like the idea. I felt a bit awkward even though I was alone but I’m gonna stick to it and see how it goes.

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Yeah I usually feel that way for the first few seconds even now, and I posted this! :laughing:

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I ought to give this another shot. Im a fan of Napoleon Hill and Think and grow rich so i belive in the mans mind. Jist gotta use this technique

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Oh Titan.

Marcus Aurelius in his meditations mentions, asking how a great man would react to situations, and then carries the task out as they would.

Fun fact: I just had a full blown, argument breakout discussing what is real and imaginary. I got very fed up with my family and immediately asked myself how would Marcus React to this?

I was doing a similar thing but I would do it with those close to me, sad to say but sometimes those people have neurotic tendencies. As such when Id ask a question the answers sometimes came in screaming with negativity, the past couple of month I was convinced I was crazy since every time one of these voices said something I would feel awful and negative.
Luckily I never accepted any psychiatric label and continued to pursue answers.
Sometimes the solution is write before your eyes but you must be led to sullied water in order to recognize the spring water pond two feet from your house.
Ave Lucifer.

Ill be trying out both the cell phone call and dinner table method.
Will report back after some time and experience :slight_smile:

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I knew how to do this method but I felt compelled to come back to this post and give myself a refresher and deeper study.

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I heard about this technique when I was in high school , Will you pick up habits or even slight traits from your members of your cabinet ?

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Possibly, I’ve not noticed it happening to me so far.

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Tesla , Einstein , James William Sidis, Steve Jobs , and Elon musk my brain about to grow bigger than my head :upside_down_face:

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