Can spirits you evoke in the future effect your life presently?

I’ve heard Koetting and other magicians say that once you evoke a spirit it will have been with you from the start. Due to the nature of time (the past and future occurring simultaneously) it sounds very feasible. Does this mean that if I work with and command spirits in the future, then they can be effecting me somehow in the present?
I’ve had countless experiences where if I think something or want something it will happen or I will get it. And I don’t think that most of those experiences had anything to do with a natural magickal talent. Could spirits I command in the future be doing my bidding presently? Does it sound possible? I have not evoked any spirits yet.

[quote=“XXShadowXX, post:1, topic:3128”]I’ve heard Koetting and other magicians say that once you evoke a spirit it will have been with you from the start. Due to the nature of time (the past and future occurring simultaneously) it sounds very feasible. Does this mean that if I work with and command spirits in the future, then they can be effecting me somehow in the present?
I’ve had countless experiences where if I think something or want something it will happen or I will get it. And I don’t think that most of those experiences had anything to do with a natural magickal talent. Could spirits I command in the future be doing my bidding presently? Does it sound possible? I have not evoked any spirits yet.[/quote]

The moment you have opened that sigil, or even met the spirit in physical contact, it is bound to your soul forever.

At that moment, you have already achieved every possibility in the future and the past simultaneously.

However, with magick, you get to choose what direction you want to give yourself, and I believe in predestination, but in the concept of creating a predestined event with magick that can be fulfilled.

the future and past remark, also applies to past lives.

Many here had been given symbols and had relations with Azazel in past lives, some know and were open about it, some are figuring it out.

Best of Luck
-Frater Apotheosis`

Well I sent some anikim giants intot he past to watch over my past self. I’ve had alot of almost inexplicable near misses of bad stuff almost happening to me many times in the past so they mayhave had something to do with it. Also when I was first making my egregore I called a future version of it to charge some stones I was using as energy batteries. The stones actually physically changed color.

Time is far less relevant outside of the material world/malkuth. While astral projecting, you can encounter the past form of human spirits. If you wish to speak to a high priest from ancient Sumeria, you can do so. Energy can be transmitted and conversations can be held across time.

So, the answer to your question is yes. It is my suspicion that, like Fr. Apotheosis said, all of these things are predetermined. You cannot change the past, but the changes you try and make were already made through your actions.

-Frater Cervus

[quote=“FireAbove, post:4, topic:3128”]Time is far less relevant outside of the material world/malkuth. While astral projecting, you can encounter the past form of human spirits. If you wish to speak to a high priest from ancient Sumeria, you can do so. Energy can be transmitted and conversations can be held across time.

So, the answer to your question is yes. It is my suspicion that, like Fr. Apotheosis said, all of these things are predetermined. You cannot change the past, but the changes you try and make were already made through your actions.

-Frater Cervus[/quote]

We actually had some incidents in the days following that confirm this if you’d like to look.

http://becomealivinggod.com/forum/white-magick-the-right-hand-path/how-2-b-godz!/

First post in the thread is where I break down a Prophecy given to us from an moderator who has a pact with Azazel. If you want to find the discussion we had where we talk about the subject you speak where said prophecy was necessary, read the link at the bottom.

If you want any more in depth information, you should check out this thread.

I’ve given you the page it gets interesting where this prophecy was originally delivered.

Prophecy is revealed by bran in a short post on the 24th in response to this very subject when it came up for discussion at the same time this did on the 23rd.

I’m giving you the locations because there are pages of text by several people that is really worth while all available and expounded upon in depth…But as usual I will point out the specifics for those of you who simply want to verify.

See why I am come to be known as “the insanely high prophet of Azazel” round these parts lol, but I didn’t come here to act a fool; just to spread some knowledge and link good threads together. That way if anyone finds this with the search function, they will find a lot of good stuff by the same author and very prominent members of the community on the subject that verifies it and explains a bit about Azazel at the same time. Both of the threads I’m posting have really good knowledge in them by several amazing contributors who help put some interesting puzzle pieces together about Azazel.

If you want to know his mysteries, you must loose yourself in his words. And you must learn that all your perceptions are merely illusions.

http://becomealivinggod.com/forum/the-book-of-azazel/book-of-azazel-starting-point/15/

You are already god,
-Frater Apotheosis