Hi guys,
As someone who’s new to black magic I wanted to ask when did you first believe that this was all real. What was your aha moment!
If you feel comfortable sharing what were you trying to achieve? Did you feel or see the presence of the spirit?
I’m really into the law of attraction and found that the more grounded I became the more I started manifesting things!
Look forward to your responses
My first real experience was with Lord Clauneck. After my first ritual with him, the very next day I was gifted with a pair of shoes by a friend, and later on he fulfilled my request which was to earn more money that month.
This is a difficult question to answer concisely. If you’re waiting for some miracle to convince you that it’s “real” chances are it won’t happen, at least not how you think. Belief plays a peculiar (yet powerful) role in this practice.
I could put it simply by telling you that I was “convinced” when I was facing up to 10 years in prison for drug felonies, with 4 felonies already on my record, but “miraculously” only got fines, after making a pact with Belial. Or when I worked with Gremory or Sallos and got exactly what I asked for romantically/sexually (and more), but even that didn’t win me over entirely. The potential to achieve those results through mundane action was already in me; the magick just forced me to take the necessary steps.
Some will tell us that we don’t need to believe, as if magick is some secret mathematical formula that makes things happen out of nowhere; say the right words, light enough candles of a specific colour, wear the right garb, use the right implements, when the planets/stars are aligned just right, but in my book that’s all just external clutter, which neophytes get lost in all too often.
Don’t get me wrong, those things are incredibly useful as stepping stones toward familiarizing yourself with ritual, and ultimately claiming your godhood; but your cloak, your dagger, your cup, wand, candles, triangle, and incense, etc are all nothing more than symbolic external cues for the purpose of triggering the proper brain states necessary to effectuate the desired changes internally, which inevitably effectuates change in ones external reality.
Magick is very much a science. It’s fun to speculate and theorize but it’s not as much about believing as it is doing.
This is not my first experience, nor my first success, but it was my strongest proof. I asked Bune for a certain amount of money within a week and got it.
I don’t believe in black magick to me that’s just fantasy but my first experience with magick was when I was younger and climbing a tree when an elemental showed herself to me, she didn’t so much have a physical form but there was that little “glitch” looking thing when she moved and her voice was clear as day. Ofc that’s only one of the experiences that made me a believer, the other was a curse I did and another was when I was experimenting with the elemental energy death and I put it inside a friend (he consented) and he felt a lot of pain in various parts of his body until we removed it (it was hella scary ngl)
who the hell consents to something like that? lol
We were both curious of what it would do and out of the two of us I was the only one with it lol
lol, on the topic, i havent been sick in a while, im talking years, i wonder if theres a similar thing that can be done to get a fever? lol
I don’t really believe in black vs white magick anymore
Just magick
It makes folk feel better to call it white sometimes I think (just my personal belief not wanting to start a debate with anyone)
I started from law of attraction
I think it took discovery of spiritual ascension (kundalini etc) as a reality to convince me there was a point purpose and reality to magick
I was already practicing it with law of attraction… just didn’t realise I was doing magick at the time really
That is so true. Magick is always Black actually. Is chaos as because the witch through rituals denies the natural order of the prophane people.
Chao ad ordo
magick not being black or white means black doesn’t exist either not that all magick is black, that’s just stupidly revamping the black vs white with all black. Magick is magick, it’s not black or white, not even just black or just white… doing magick in and of itself is still part of the natural order, that’s like saying magick is unnatural
LHP worshipers be like: “magick isn’t black and white you’re right it’s all black”
This is funny! 
Bc we all know what was meant
But yeah actually
Magick is magick 
Oh nice what was the first ritual you ever did… did you find it difficult and did you already have a lot or prior knowledge before performing
Thankyou for sharing guys that’s been really useful!
I’ve actually struggled thus far to feel the presence of any spirits. I’ve tried evoking astarte a few times and followed the step by step process js garret has on his YouTube page however I didnt feel any presence around me.
I’ve also had js garret perform the rite of deification on me to help my magic powers. Are there any books or youtube videos that you would recommend a beginner like myself?
Or also rituals that one could perform
Easy to understand YouTube channels
Rituals to learn… lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram if you haven’t already learned it as a beginner
The first thing I did was with Papa Legba, that simple thing with coins and candy. After about 2 months I started finding money on the street and getting smaller amounts through gambling, it wasn’t much but it was regular. I couldn’t win anything before that.
I found a video about it on YT, researched Legba and that was it. I didn’t have a lot of prior knowledge or faith. I made it and forgot about it. It took me a while to connect what happened and why. That is why this from Bune is the strongest proof for me, because the requested amount was obtained within the given time limit.
I am generally a novice at this, I am oriented towards the protection and development of the senses.
I’ve seen demons appear before me, and have felt the presence of thousand demons roar, with Beelzebub’s flies buzzing, that’s when I knew what I was into was real.