Hiiii so I was wondering about the differnce in safety n protection when it comes to evoking spirits like, if someone does it in an astral temple vs. the void plane. I’ve heard that in an astral temple, you can set up protective sigils n symbols to keep out astral parasites. But at the same time, those parasites are supposed to be all over the astral plane anyway, so not sure how much that actually helps long term.
Then I was reading a bit of The Magical Knowledge Trilogy by Josephine McCarthy, and she talks about using the void as kind of an escape if you run into unpleasnt entities during shamanic journeys. I think she’s refering to the astral or maybe etheric planehonestly not 100% sure since those two always seem to get mixed up, even tho they’re technically diff.
So now I’m just wonderingdo astral parasites exist in the void too, like in some different way? And also, is the void actually safe to use for evocation? I’ve read that some ppl do, but still kinda unsure which wud be safer for a begginer, the astral temple or the void plane.
@Melissa-girly It Usually depends on what type of shamanic traveller you are? Some people are Linear Travellers which means they can visualise and see things progress like a story. Like i start off in my safe haven, then go through a portal door, then im in “insert realm” name, i go through the woods there is a pathway, it leads me to the temple space ect.
Void Travellers are slightly different when they’re in there state that’s usually dark, slowly that darkness begings to have motion, like its living moving darkness. Eventually it will change sometimes adding colours within the darkness, Eventually a doorway or symbol will appear it will open to where they need to be. Void Travellers seem to be taken to where they need to go.
I would say the Shamanic & Void would be safer as there within us and we have more control as it facilitates some form of problem solution dynamic e.g. soul retrieval, healing, ect.
As for the astral because its external and we have more chance of running into something beyond our control such as parasites and attachments slightly more dangerous.
Also i don’t consider shamanic traveling and astral traveling the same. Usually Shamanic Travel Is Within Yourself. Astral Travel Is Out Of The Self. That’s just my take on the subject others may have different view.
A astral temple is a place one make to go astral to do magic
The void is the space in between universe, and other planes of existence also the abysses are in the void it like a place that is full of nothingness but yet there many, many eninity/spirits whole realms of existence and much more there use can use to void to go place like the realms of deaths, past events in history the abyss,
This “void traveller” thing seems a lot like something that happens to me. I sleep. I see what i call the dark waters, where the darkness of my eyelids begins to ripple like water in a pond. Then I see orange or silver tracings begin to emerge. If I push past them without focusing too hard, I end up in the astral. Sometimes, though, I end up in a random location where it feels like I just opened a door and stepped through and now I am somewhere else. This can lead to weird experiences or sometimes to places that are dark and the inhabitants tell me I don’t belong. In the latter, I usually get kicked back to awake. I don’t understand these things and I don’t know how to control them yet. Found your comment after I was searching for astral doors due to an experience last night. Would love any more info you might now on this and I’ll continue skimming the thread.
Void = known as Pre-Light… or a place where things aren’t as formed, but also where formed structures are. Think of it basically as stepping outside your house. Now you are in the Outdoors with Trees… the land…the raw elements. There may be other houses nearby. Void is what alot call “Dark Energy.” It is Pre-Light… on a very fine tuned level you need the proper senses to percieve it… or it feels like nothingness… mute… and of course what some call Darkness.
The VOID and Abyss are kind of interchangeable… you can think of VOID as less about whats inside negative space, and more likely the negative space itself. But it isn’t complete nothingness… as I said there is energy there and you must have fine tuned senses to pick it up.
The Void is full of predators just like in the Light realm of mundane reality. The difference is their function or the way they operate. But if you do not have the fine tuned senses, most of the time you will feel like you are in a place of pitch black darkness.
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