Aren’t you human? and many people have worked with all the goetia already, or is this demon not part of the goetia? since all 72 are known by people.
@Zaanein Excuse me but even less famous demons of Goetia is/was/will be argued, and they so far worked with humans fine.
I don’t believe in your statement.Someone from Goetia could just tell it.But your experiences arent mine of course, so best of luck to you.
If he isnt from Goetia, my bad, but so far you made it like he is from Goetia considering you answered this:
With this
And when I asked you this
You claimed he doesnt like working with humans and he doesnt want to be bothered.
He only works in very rare cases, but he doesn’t like the company of humans because: “I don’t want to offer knowledge and help to stupid people who do not know what to do with my power.”
It offers me love and help with the study of occult subjects. He esteems me and I esteem him.
He is not a demon not too requested by what I have seen.
Interesting, thank you.
My understanding (which is a newbie when it comes to this area) is that every one has that base to them but can show other qualities and some not exactly outside knowledge. An example is the gods I once worked with had what I called hidden attributes. So I think that there maybe demons that are the same.
Like I said I’m fairly new still with this area but I found some interesting qualities (at least what I saw) with some that some may or may not see.
Belial - He is good for protection. If he feels like it, or feels like he’ll be a good fit, he can protect you. Yes many can provide some protection but I have first accounts of him personally putting up protection in my room as well as fighting off unwanted situations. As well as a more recent incident that just using his name made them stop and leave.
King Paimon - Hes good with job help. Yes you have to put work in, but if you do he will help you. He helped me get a good job and even a spot for a permanent job there as well.
Azazel- He is very much connected to nature and I having a feeling, not fact just yet, that he loves plants and anything Earthy. I have a feeling he enjoys working with plants especially when it comes to alchemy and can help you find a connection to the Earth and her energies. Despite his dark and often time demonic appearance that many see him as, I feel he has a lighter side to him that I feel is often overlooked.
These a just a few I have found so far. I think in this retrospect, it is depending on the people that they are coming too. Everyone is different and wants to achieve a different degree in different things. Yes some are a lot more dense such as Belial compared to King Paimon or more chaotic in energy such as Abaddon (who by the way if you or he feels your ready can teach you about possession. I’m of course not ready ) But all have that side to them that is technically lighter. Now is it like a angel? Nope. But there are some that had retained some of their angelic selves such as Lucifer. Maybe some of the watchers as well. Some are going to be closer to the elemental plain then others while some are more void like energy :3 All I can suggest if you to get to know them and work with them individually to have a good feel of them.
elemental void you’ll normally find in voidlings or beings like Tiamat, Khaos, Nun, etc. I don’t think you’ll find it in demons.
Some have said that the Demons desire to return to the Light. ( Not the False Light, which is just energy stolen from the masses of duped blind worshippes of the right hand path ( according to some ).
“The soul needs light to have Power”. ( joy of satan quote ).
"Chains of darkness, reserved for judgement " ( christian new testament bible ).
Maybe these Demons are NOT in the darkness by choice, but were banished there, cut off from the light, power source.
The ‘Prince of Darkness’ might merely mean the Entity that is most skilled with using Darkness to his advantage., only because he may have no other choice.
That’s from more of a religious point of view but demon is a race not a moral ideology brought on my damnation.
Joy of Satan has their opinion on the whole light dark and heavenly war scenario. I merely point out that maybe the Demons lost a war and got banished to the dark. Morals aside. Like the enemy in a war on earth defeated one side and taking away all of the food. That army dies.
If the Light is Power, then the Demons may have got cut off from the food source, light.
Just a possibility
That’s under the idea that demons are all just fallen angels, but light being power makes it sound like demons are weak now.
HPS Maxine Dietrich ( Joy of Satan ), said that in 2002 and 2003, they freed the Demons by connecting their chakras to the Demons, and the Demons increased drastically in Light and Power.
According to her.
I honestly highly doubt that. lol hen again I’ve come to find a lot of JoS is doubtful. But if it helps them .
Recently i felt very confused. For example:
Celestials, angelic types -like the Cherubin and Sphynx
~share some odd visual similarities to the depiction of tiamat.
OR how Arachne/Sepheranz is also somehow related to light. yeah i know, i was like “that doenst seem right” when my friend told me that.
I find that part interesting, and to be fair, i still dont really know what to think. In shinto for example, one is not “sinful” “evil” “wicked” but merely twisted and polluted. ~Kegare can be washed off, literally and spiritually.
And its not believed in ANY sort of hell, but instead a road of purification. Also, its not about merging with the source kami, but instead awaken a part of it, within you, to let it mature and rise up levels. Also, what i found interesting… in contrast to the usual white light “kill your ego and self and jsut become a divine robot”, actually, it was stated that more pieces of you, are to rise if you align and clean them properly.
~Otherwise, certain aspects will either rot and die, or have to go through purificaiton in some realm elsewhere.
But again, i still dont know what to think about this myself.
Personally? i try to further deconstruct things, and wonder if what we consider “light” and “darkness” is but a distortion of the original principles, which have no morals or prejudice attached to them at all.
Action and re-action. Like the yin yang archetypes.
i dont pretend to know much, so i apologize for wasting your time.
P.S.: seriously though, i was surprised when i left the egg of the universe (the void surrounding it) and it was…not white-bright but still rather bright around it. Idk if anyone of your heard of “the drift”(?) this weird city between universes. Road/streams of “smoke”? “clouds?” lead to there, and its jsut a huge collection of temples, pillars and towers. weird shit.
Cherubim are light beings, Judeo angels are light beings, the Sphinx as a creature(s) can have multiple elemental energies, but I never met one with void. As for Arachne I don’t even know if she’s a goddess since it’s Greek lore I’m more prone to hearing from @Anassa on what she is.
Arachne was never a goddess or a deity of any kind and was never worshipped as one. She was a mortal woman punished by Athena for hubris and transformed to our well known spider, doomed to weave her entire life and someone will always destroy her web. That goes for the Greek Arachne. Any other spider deity is not called Arachne (as this is the Greek name) and has nothing to do with the myth of Arachne.
When I saw the whole Sepheranz I figured it was something taken from V.K who I don’t really trust their work in the slightest.
Thanks for clearing that up I legit wasn’t sure, I haven’t really read much on Arachne.
Same here about that guy.
I’ve seen many people in here talking about working with Arachne. I have absolutely no idea what they’re working with. Its like working with a fly, or with a squirrel. Arachne is just the common spider, nothing else, nothing metaphysical. She never got any super powers so to say, and she wasn’t the daughter of any deities (like Medusa was), but of mortals.
maybe you can explain to me what the beef is about
So Arachne is less a person, more a kind of person, at least in practice?
cute.
No beef, I just don’t trust his work, partly because I tested his capability to do readings and what I got back was so far off that I just took what I received and left. I won’t hype up someone I have doubts in their capabilities.
so its all smell but no meat? alright. i wont press the issue further