I recently bought this book and i have done a couple of spells.
For me the results were instant. But i have a couple of questions.
How long will they last? Will they last up to 3 months or do i have to repeat them every week?
I saw that the ritual for protection from bad luck you have to do it once a week.
Also once they start producing results do you have to repeat the ritual so you intensify it?
I mostly use the protection and revive physical energy spells. Energy probably needs to be redone once a week, the protection one at least once a day, but that is probably because my tormentor is a crazy human and not a spirit. I have severe acute fatigue syndrome (burnt out) and the Regain physical energy spell works! Spread the word.
These angels are really great.
So it is quick results but low impact?
What if for example you want to become more likeable? Do you have to repeat every day?
I need half the book atm. I cannot imagine myself doing 20 spells in a week lol
And yes they are great
Most of your questions are answered by the book
The book says to create a schedule. However i started using it by allow my astral senses guide me on the intensity.
My main question was how long the results last…
I am being enthusiastic atm because they were fast.
Is it a build up thing for example if you want to be more charismatic?
For me both spells activate quickly. A few hours for protection, but energy took a few days.
Exile spell has not worked yet after 6 months, but it is a strong enemy.
As an interesting side note I can mention that when I begun using their spells my inner eye showed me all the demons I had worked with up until then walked away in pairs on a single line with bowed heads, the feeling being “If angels are going to be involved, we won’t have anything to do with it”.
But I have been forced to use demons too now, hoping they can take it this time.
I didnt have this issue.
What scared me a little bit was when i was browsing the rituals that i thought the best start would had been to work with my astral senses thinking that they might become stronger.
So i felt the angel calling me greedy and that i had already the skill and if i was greedy he was going to shut it down completely. In which i replied that i had a specific need that i needed my senses more alert and strengthened. And i explained.
He did not shut them down. I was lucky. But this directed me to start with other rituals first that i needed more rather than do the ritual that was not that necessary.
I sense that their changes are small and permanent. Not necessarily irreversible. But this is what my gut instict says.
Regarding that person leaving your life. Have you tried the ritual on removing a person out of your life from Gordon Winterfield s book on Magickal attack?
It is not that much baneful but it can work. I have found great success from this book.
I have used the book quite a lot, and I would recommend to keep at it. Go with your gut, don’t do the spells every day if you don’t feel like it’s necessary. But I would say, even if you get what you wanted, if it’s kind of an ongoing thing, keep doing the ritual every X amount of time to keep what you got. It’s what I’ll do next time. My experience with the AoO has been great honestly.
I have tried the corresponding ritual from Demons of Wrath and Angels of Wrath. This person is not a magickian, but very astrally versed, and as I understand it not a human soul in that body, a lizard one. Does astral attacks so close to the physical it really hurts. Have tried every trick in the book, working with several heavy hitters.
Try the magickal attack it is more brutal.
I usually work with AoW only if i need a quick spell or if the person is a magician or a highly religious person
While we’re on the subject of this book, wondering which method you guys use? I only use the pathworking method as the other method is highly dependent on emotional transmutation which I am atrocious at.
Those who use both methods, wondering which you’ve found most effective?
I got this book, I read it, then read here and in other forums that they turn your life around in unexpected and dramatic (and even troublesome) ways, and I said “yeah, nope, I’m good.”
So now that it’s been brought up that these rituals have to be repeated to keep the results… what if you do rituals to get a job and/or money, you get a great job, but then you move on and stop doing the rituals? Would you lose it all? What if you do it to get into a relationship? If you stop doing the rituals once you get the result, you get dumped?
It seems a bit exhausting to have to keep doing the rituals forever to avoid losing the result. And then there’s also the unpredictable risks I mentioned at the beginning.
And since Magickal Attack was mentioned here, I remember I haven’t got any results from that book so far. Same thing with Angels of Wrath and Demons of Wrath.
I got a few results from Demons of Magick, but 9/10 I got nothing.
Keep in mind this isn’t exclusive to AoO though – it could happen with any other ritual or entity. I did have my life flipped upside down when I did an initiation rite with them, but I have been working with them a lot recently (the sigils) and so far have only very good things to report.
The author says that you should pick a goal, find the sigil for it, then set your own schedule and stick to it. It can be for as long or as short a time as you choose. Personally I’d recommend “soften reality” with Uiazel first to prepare the stage, then move on to other workings.
I don’t believe this is what the author meant. Ideally, you perform the ritual(s), you get your results, and then that is your new reality. It becomes the new normal. You shouldn’t need to constantly maintain it for fear of suddenly losing everything overnight, but you could strengthen the magick every so often, whether it’s using the same AoO rituals or simply proactively or reactively using a ritual to cement your reality. For example, let’s say you’re naturally blonde and decide to dye your hair brunette. As soon as you’ve done it, you’re a brunette now. That is your new reality and how you would classify yourself. You went from “I’m blonde” to “I’m a brunette”. You still need to go to the salon every 2 months or so to continue being a brunette, but your understanding of reality is that you are a brunette.
To give another example more along the lines of what you mentioned; say you use AoO to help you find a romantic relationship. Now your new reality is “I am in a relationship with X”. You don’t need to constantly use a “get a relationship” working, because you already have the relationship. If things are going amazingly well, maybe you could use a ritual at some point to further cement how good your relationship is, or to progress it (proactive). Or maybe if you and your partner begin arguing a bit too much for your liking, you could use a sigil to fix it (reactive). It doesn’t necessarily mean you should need to use “get a relationship” every day for your entire relationship and if you stop doing it you’ll be dumped within 24 hours. Please try your hardest not to think of it that way; if you seed this thought in your mind then you may end up worrying needlessly and setting yourself up for self-sabotage. As in, if you truly believe that you need to repeat a ritual for something you already have, and you will lose your result if you stop the ritual, you may create a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Thank you so much for the explanation. It makes lots of sense.
This is more or less what i thought.
I didnt notice the ritual for softening reality. It is on my to do list now.
Can I ask where you came by the initiation rite?
Here you go:
Cool, thank you, I shall check it out.
I should ask though, when you said “I did have my life flipped upside down when I did an initiation rite with them” how badly and in what ways was it flipped (if its okay to ask that)?
Well. I was working with another entity shortly after, one who was a complete mystery and drove me down an obsessive rabbit-hole looking for information. So I can’t exactly say which of them caused it, or if it was just my own psyche.
To be vague… just after the initiation rite I felt depressed and was experiencing a lot of derealisation and suicidal thoughts. At the same time I was using the Law of Assumption to achieve something (relationship with someone in another state). Within maybe 3 weeks I was given a perfectly clear avenue for my result to manifest (some of family decided to move to that state). I was amazed and excited at first, then I started doubting myself. As my family members were travelling to the other state, one of them experienced a life-threatening medical emergency. My loved one survived (thanks to Raphael, the Law, and my good friends on BALG), and my family members eventually made it to the new state where they’d be living. All of this unfolded in around 4 - 6 months.
Do I blame the AoO or myself for that? No. I have no proof that the events are related and I do not want this to scare you or anyone else away from working them. But I will say you should approach them with absolute conviction and confidence. Not fear.
Thanks for that, I appreciate the info. I’ll definitely look into this process further
What are the benefits of the initiation?
I have worked with the Qliphoth and with Jinns. Will it create a chaos if i initiate too with the AoO?