Hi there 
I remember stumbling across an interesting testimonies of people who claimed to be initiated into being skinwalkers in the past… Weather or not they are honest, or just good storytellers, I have noticed one similarity…
They say that if one is to become a good skinwalker- one who does not do evil deeds to others without a reason etc- their shapeshifted eyes will become white or “clear” (I guess it means translucent, or just colourless) and if one will be an evil (malevolent, harm-causing, sadistic etc) skunwalker, their eyes will turn yellow or red… Now… That was really, really, REALLY interesting to me… I would like to ask… Do anyone of You know anything about it? How does these “good skinwalkers” gain their abilities if they obviously did not kill a family member or close friend in order to get initiated? Are there other techniques through which one can become a Yenaldoishi without engaging in human sacrifice? I am asking mainly out of curiosity… The more I read about these fascinating being, the more I want to know 
Some ppl say that they were initiated in very young age, by elders, they speak of ling meditations, mirror scryibgs, ritual sacrifices (these who claim to be “good skinwalkers” tell about others sacrificing some people but themselves not participating actively in said offering, or at least not mentioning it) going into wilderness, learning and communicating in animal language (not always verbal) and such stuff… Now… Ummm…
Anyone can “enlighten” me on to what degree their testimonies are true? Anyone have any experiences that can either proove or disproove their claims? Have anyone of You heard before of a “good skinwalker/Yenaldooshi”? Let’s start a discussion 
I’ve been looking into it here and there but most of it seems associated with the negative side of skinwalking. Would love to find more info like this about the positive side of it.
Me too 
Good and bad are subjective terms in an objective world. Id like to know some of your resources on this, just curious about the legitimate nature of such claims. Most who participate in this level of magick don’t usually interact with this physical aspect of our world, not to say that they can’t, but if you had that ability and secrecy surrounding the process to obtain it would you reveal it to others?
You’re welcome I will try to find this website again. There was a one radio-podcast-like video on the topic of SW and this was brought up as “trivia”, but it was taken down from YT I guess 
of at least deleted as I can no longer find it and I don’t remember the YT channel name 
(Misstypes. I’m sorry)
Yes morality is subjective, but I hold contempt for those who will sacrifice their humanity for power. I’ve heard accounts of dark taoists, when you reach that level of working with the darkest energies, it will tale its toll and drain you, your need for power increases as you try to maintain yourself.
I don’t put any stock in these stories. They labor under the assumption that Navajo sorcerers, which is what skinwalkers are, are out their looking to recruit outside the tribe. I don’t believe that to be the case. And such accounts differ markedly from native accounts of such things. Native encounters always involve the physical sighting of a rather ordinary animal that is indigenous to the area albeit with some odd feature. As though someone is imitating the animal and hasn’t quite got the hang of it.
I have never seen native accounts speaking in terms of dreams and visions or spirits or anything like that. There is actual documented evidence of skinwalkers being physical people. You have the witch purge of 1878 wherein the Navajo rounded up and executed a bunch of their own people as suspected skinwalkers.
The one account on here where someone allegedly summoned a skinwalker and was asked to join their “wolf pack” is similar nonsense. The name of the spirit had more in common with something from a Koetting grimoire and translates to nothing in Navajo. And there is no compelling evidence that skinwalkers have a preoccupation with wolves. More often they are deer, elk or anything that tends to blend into the area.
Non-native skinwalker accounts have more in common with pop culture than anything else. You have folks who maybe saw a movie or read a book and based on that shaky premise start “summoning skinwalkers”. It’s all downhill from there as one bit of untested upg leads to another.
I’ve heard Skinwalkers whos purpose was to protect the forest, the land or the tribe from animals and other people (like sport hunters, who kills those beautiful creatures of the woods like elk, wolf etc).
Sometimes they just warned those hunters, didn’t attacked them, but even their eyes glowed red or yellow. It looks like that the way how they reach this power and ability, can affect their appearance like the eye color (same true about werewolves, but in their case the main reason of their actual eye color is the Moon’s state when they became one; so technically, when they “born”).
We can say for sure that people’s purpose can change. Same true in a Yee Naaldlooshii’s case. This is the reason why you can’t really make sure that the actual Skinwalker before you have a good or bad purpose.
I can tell you from Navajo accounts, that you can encounter them via dreams, visions and they can control you from far if they got the permission from you (so even the “possession” can be possible). Even if you wouldn’t give them, they can show you things and trick you into agreeing.
This is what made me busy in the last months; my progress, experiences with them. They are way more behind the spirit realm than most of people think; and I know this from an authentic source.
So I got lucky, I found a Navajo Elder who could help me to find out more about them.
But I’d like to handle those informations with discreetly.
While you might be right about skinwalkers I was brought into native american shamanism by a Hopi and was accepted no problem. Food for thought.
It seems she was actually talking about shapeshifting in general and not specifically navajo slinwalkers anyways.
The terms shamanism never gets used by Natives here. Mostly because it’s inaccurate. And its not something up for grabs by just anyone, even within the tribe. Of course any native can take a core shamanism course and call themselves a shaman. You really need to be careful here.
Best not to conflate the two then
Semantics. Medicine men, shaman, its just a word and it gets the point across. Gods arent gods as its understood but I still use the term… Im always skeptical, but after multiple medicine ceremonies including past life experiences among other things, its quite apparent these were powerful folks. I wouldnt have even met them if not for a fairly advanced friend of mine who has taught me a lot.
I get where you are coming from and I can see it with a secretive sect like skinwalkers, but it is simply not true for every group.
And skinwalker, shapeshifter…its easy to see how someone not aware of the finer details would confuse this.
Here is something to chew on. Read through that and see if it raises any red flags. Terminology matters and every tribe has their own word for what you are describing. i hope you areN’t paying this dude
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/awakening101/not_shamans.html
Which only contributes to a muddying of the waters which I am not a huge fan of.
When did I every say they reffered to themselves by the word I used? I don’t need to prove my experiences to anyone either way xD
Again, I understand where you are coming from, but I dont see the value of going out of your way to correct terminology if you understand the reality of it. I would not say indigenous american practices are the same as european or slavic practices just because I use the word “shaman”, nor do I see the need to waste my time explaining to people that Gods are not the same as demons and our interpretations of what the Gods actually are are wrong, or at least missing a lot of information.
I’ll read the link later though, might be something useful to further my progress.
I am actually on path of a True Apex Shapeshifter, so I know more of them than 99.9% ppl here on the forum XD But don’t forget there are maaaaany different types and kinds of shspeshifters (from definition- beings who are able to change from one form to another, like humanoid to coyote or cougar etc) out there and I simply percieve Yenaldooshies as one of those types. They are sorcerers who use magick after all, giving Native’s accounts. I believe it is possible to use magick to shspeshift physical body 
even today there are many claims of African witches doing that very thing (most likely nearily all of them are false, but giving the level of uncanny simarities between all of them leads me to believe that long ago there might be a certain sect of people who used magick to change their shape, like famous werehyenas, or wereleopards etc) Irland have its Selkies, Scottland have Kelpies, Japan has Kitsunes, basically every country on the world has their own accounts on Shapeshifters legends and Navajo Skinwalkers are one of them I guess… Remember no two Shapeshifters are completily the same, if You see my point 
thank You for commenting
On some level Fastus is preaching to the choir. I always remain skeptical but keep open mind. Stay open to new experiences but use critical thinking. Until I experience it for myself, I cant say really.
My interest is in Berserkers. My ancestors are nordic and germanic, and I feel a close connection to the wolf. Now and again I have dreams of running through the forest as a wolf. The berserkers are close to nature but also fierce warriors. I have tapped into berserkergang (a battle trance of sorts) but it is not something to be taken lightly.
This is very interesting 
It’s beautiful
Good. i think it’s just fine to be fascinated by the lore and to try to figure out the “tech” behind it. But much of what you will find here is going to fall into the realm of fanfic. It is what it is. Good luck in your researches, all of you