I have been reading this book by David Rankine and Sorita D Este. Many books seem to have covered the same material but they included some things no other book I have read talked about.
So here is a hierarchy for Keter.
EHEIEH (I WILL BE)
Metatron (He Who Stands Before the Throne)
Angels Chaioth ha Qadesh
Is this the same entity operating at different levels. The Kabbalahists give us different parts of our soul as we progress up the tree of life. Is this like that, same entity but at different levels of his soul, so to speak, I don’t know if I explained that very well.
And more importantly, will starting in Atziluth > Briah > Yetzirah > Assiah and invoking the appropriate entity at each level will that make manifestation easier. Until now I have never included angels from Yetzirah unless they were on a Talisman.
Can someone kind of explain this so I can figure out how to use it to my advantage.
Also, a little more exploration shows that the Catholic church has very different ideas about what each Choir is good at, I think it best to trust Rankine and D Este, is that a good idea or is there another source I should look at for opinions on what Choir does what.
Divine Names and Archangels are in every kabbalah book you read but nothing on angels in Yetzirah, its weird and I wonder why if you are not allowed to tell me can you point me to a source for more information.
I can’t answer this entirely as I’m a complete novice in learning Kabbalah
But maybe this helps some…
Ehieh … I was, I am, I will be (I Am that I Am)
Metatron is an archangel who in Judiac understanding is a recording angel (like a scribe)
And the chaoith ha qadesh refers to a group of angels - specifically 4… I’m not sure if just 4 angels or if it’s 4 races/groups of angels that are found in the book of Ezekiel and are said to have the faces of a human, an ox, a lion and an eagle … which is obviously symbolic and may mean more to someone than it does to me currently at this point
Metatron directs these angels in linking the energy of the creator with creation (incl humans)
They’re kinda spiritual tour guides with metaphorical chariots (merkabah) taking the divine creative energy to people
Not sure if I would see them as the same entity, I don’t think it’s quite like that on different levels but certainly serving the system or order of things … in terms of if you mean entity as whole creation then possibly I’m not sure… in that in Him are all things (in a Jewish understanding) … nothing is outside of God, everything is within…
I know I haven’t quite answered you, and I haven’t read that book but maybe that helps your knowledge… to understand it
Snap really, I’m hoping someone does come along and expand on it …
The chaioth ha qadesh are certainly linked to fire but then why it’s metatron here is where I would get lost but someone with knowledge would understand why fire element is here
God is within everything (at least in the Kabbalistic thought), so answer is both yes and no. Metatron is an archangel (Enoch ascended). Some even think he is lesser Yahweh, so to speak. Angels are just that, angels. I will send a link about the lesser Yahweh thing.
Yeah, there are definitely things I do not know lol. I am actually exploring prekabbalah jewish magic now and exploring texts, such as the Sefer Yetzirah, that built towards the different traditions of Kabbalah. I believe the five worlds (as there is a fifth that is not usually mentioned called the Adam Kadmon) stems from Lurianic Kabbalah, which came after Theosophical Kabbalah (stemming directly from the Zohar). The Zohar is a really difficult text, so I thought going as far back as I can with Jewish Mysticism and working my way forward would not only help with possible references but to learn how to get used to the style of writing within these texts, as writing and speaking seems to play a huge part of these systems.
And while the rabbis had their disagreements (in the case of the Zohar where you are literally reading arguments on the exact same page), the different texts seem to build on eachother. So an obscure angel , for example, that seems slightly out of place in one text may have played a bigger role in another, which is why they were mentioned in the current text. There is an interesting evolution of thought as time passed based on the general overview i have explored.
Lol yeah, I was surprised too. There seems to be three main “branchs”: Theosophical (which focuses on the Zohar), Lurianic/Estastic Kabbalah and Practical Kabbalah. There is also Cabalah, which is a Christian verison that emerged in the Middle Ages to essentially discredit judaism and Quabalah, which includes a host of other influences that is used in ceremonial magic. Ultimately, if we are including the Sefer Yetzirah (which is theorized as being the origin of the ten sephirot), we are talking about a concept that has been in built and shaped for about 1,800 years. That is a lot of time for things to change and you can imagine the sheer amount of energy that has been put into it with all the lives that have devoted their time to study throughout the passing of time.
Yep! And starting out you pick up multiple books and utterly confuse yourself not realising any of this and not having a clue what it is you’re trying to learn or do with it!
I can comfortably explain Hebrew or Jewish concepts to myself often coming from a fundamentalist Christian background with heavy biblical study before esotericism became my interest … but yeah I’m starting to think I might be the type of person who needs the structure of an order to grasp mysteries … just to keep myself following the same thread (I realise there are other purposes to esoteric orders just talking personally here)
Oh wow, I guess I was hoping I’d find more of a map than a labyrinth! Are you comfortable with PMing me as I don’t want to derail here but I’d love to hear that perspective out before committing to anything beyond my own free study
If anybody is looking for good books on practical Kabbalah I would recommend Jacous G. Swart and Qabbalistic Magic: Talismans, Psalms, Amulets, and the Practice of High Ritual. Everything in their books is quite potent as I can attest, I looked at one talisman that will bestow prophetic dreams upon the practitioner following specific procedures and guess what? I had one without following any directions but just looking at it.
To add some things helpful to my research so far without derailing too much, Baal Kadmon is pretty solid for breaking down concepts to make it more understandable. This particular subject was part of his own background from what I have pieced together from his books and youtube videos.
Another great channel that talks about Kabbalah, among many other things, is Esoterica on youtube. The videos are longer but he combs through some of more intimidating texts in a casual way and provides suggestive reading lists in his descriptions. I like that channel for historical grimoire/practices in general, not just Jewish magic/mysticism.
Are you familiar with Esoterica on YouTube. I think he is a Rabbi Scholar and his specialty is the esoteric. Several responders have mentioned books he has done 20-30 minute programs on. So they are not in depth but it might be a starting place.
(like sometimes if I want to research something I will read Wikipedia just to get an overview and some search terms to dig in with)
I have heard a lot of different reasoning on spellings. One said the Cabbalah with a C is because it is emphasizing the femine. (because there are know hard edges and the C is open) and that it is spelled with a K because of the sharp edges and it is straight lines and therefore masculine.
he claimed the Q was for magick users,
there is just a ton of fun little facts and wild speculation out there.
but then why it’s metatron here is where I would get lost but someone with knowledge would understand why fire element is here
not realising any of this and not having a clue what it is you’re trying to learn or do with it!
(I realise there are other purposes to esoteric orders just talking personally here)