Magic And Ethics

I see what you mean, but im not necessarily talking about cursing left and right for small stuff

Im talking more repeated, cyclical type shit. People repeating the same actions, habits, behaviors, that keep affecting you in any way regardless of family, friends, or relationship (human or Divine).

One can handle the small stuff, but its when that small stuff starts to build and amount to bigger and bigger agitation/annoyance that action has to be taken, to me

I wasn’t talking to you directly.

But yes. Repeated offenses by one person is an issue of drawing boundaries. Otherwise you are letting yourself get walked all over like a welcome matt.

And for myself: there are several methods of taking care of such things that I can choose from based on the gravity of the offense.

Morality is messy messy messy.

But I think these are good conversations to have. It’s nice to see where others stand.

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In the words of one famous (if fictional) black Mage: “there is no good and evil, there is only power and those too weak to seek it.”

Then again, those who argue that there’s no good and evil usually tend to be classified as “evil” by the rest of us. :laughing:

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That whole argument automatically assumes that a person who has power above what society would normally permit will act in ways that harm others, though. :thinking:

I would substitute that with this: the person will do what they think will fulfil them, and that this won’t automatically mean a net harm, or a long-term harm, to anyone else - a classic example would be having total power and going back in time to kill Pol Pot, for example.

Mostly in life I think we just want what we want, and we look for fancy philosophies to tart that up, this is why I abandoned study of them! :crazy_face:

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Well thank you :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Nah, no good, no evil as those are human terms based solely on perspective.

My “morals” and “ethics” are purely this:

Respect

Even if its the shared respect of staying out of one another’s way, its still Respect, and with respect comes a host of things I value over everything.

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That actually kinda proves my point above, you seldom see anyone who is universally considered to be “good” pushing that line. :rofl:

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Well why on the gods’ green planes would they? :joy: they haven’t accepted both sides of the coin, and aren’t willing to become the “bad guy” if the need ever arose.

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This is correct they are just a construct, I go from the heart, if I love you Then I love you and am good to you because you are good to me but when people fuck with me or my family I take care of it with not equal but much more force.
This is where the law of three comes into play. Not the Wicca law of the return of three but my law of I return in threes. Be good to me you will get it back x3 fuck with me and mine and you get fucked back 3x as hard. Not to mention when they fuck with us they are fucking with all nine of us and not just one person we are one in nine and nine in one. :yum:

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While you may be banned, allow me to add salt to the wound, especially since you’re my stalker by saying, you’re are utterly incorrect.

I agree with Velotak, as usual :smirk:.
In all seriousness, morals are limiting. Why constrain what and why you do something? This is supposed to be the year you lot break your limits come on…

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So basically are you saying that your basic ethic is to nurture life and not just human life?

I went back into the archives and found this thread. I probably should have done an archives search before I started a new thread.

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The Black Path ironically entails an ethos just as the Sacred Red Road does: Spurning altruism,and restraint, for example, become necessities.

How about this viewpoint:

given action is good for one being, bad for another:
Food consumption.
To be exact, Meat.
Steak for example.
Have to be a living creature and then is killed and eaten by us.
Bad for the Cow. Very bad.

Good for us, becouse it keeps us nutrated.

Hmm…

A Lion eat’s a Human -Bad for the Human.

Now…

Of course these are theoretical.

But the point is, once you learn to leave your own viewpoint, and go into that of who ever is in front of you, you’ll learn to adjust to any situation. :wink:

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But do we, really, leave our own viewpoints and tackle our daily lives indifferently? What would your thoughts be, just by simply taking a stroll in the city with visual impressions of people passing by, or of something happening in your surroundings? If you just shrug your shoulders, thinking you don’t really care, it’s still a statement of your own point of view.

We always have impressions to deal with every single day. And we deal with these impressions by our own point of view.

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