has someone evocation and POSSESSION Thoughtform The Daedras or a Aedra help in your Ascent to godhood in the Elder Scrolls they are gods. i will like to know.
[url=http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Daedric_Princes]http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Daedric_Princes[/url]
[url=http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Aedra]http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Aedra[/url]
[url=http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Sithis_(Deity)]http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Sithis_(Deity)[/url]
As an avid gamer who’s fond of the Elder Scrolls series, no. But I am about to be doing something very ES related in my magic. Can’t say at the moment, though.
[quote=“maxout, post:1, topic:2729”]has someone evocation and POSSESSION Thoughtform The Daedras or a Aedra help in your Ascent to godhood in the Elder Scrolls they are gods. i will like to know.
[url=http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Daedric_Princes]http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Daedric_Princes[/url]
[url=http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Aedra]http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Aedra[/url]
[url=http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Sithis_(Deity)]http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Sithis_(Deity)[/url][/quote]
You could also go into Chaos Magick for that, but you would need the same astral skills and the mental discipline to pull the thing off, as you would need for some more “traditional” evocation. Perhaps also a deeper involvement in the context of the game’s cosmology.
I actually just found my first black book in skyrim.
Hermaeus Mora is a pretty amazing being in concept, (I loved his interaction with the skaal shaman), but when it comes down to it, Id rather commune with something “real” than a thoughtform given power by a bunch of gamers.
That said, playing this game as a mage has given me TONS of ideas on how to think outside the box in applying my magick in real life. I normally have an aversion to these types of things, but a friend told me I HAD to check it out and he was right, I have a feeling that the developers of this game are either magickians themselves, or at least have a strong fascination with the occult, theres just too many parallels between half of the libers ive read and the “books” in the game.
has someone evocation and POSSESSION Thoughtform The Daedras or a Aedra help in your Ascent to godhood in the Elder Scrolls they are gods. i will like to know.
No,but I would love to have a little chat with sheogorath or maybe other fictional charecters like the one and only JOKER!
Vaermina would be awsome.
Stoarmcloak or Impirial?
[quote=“atherius, post:5, topic:2729”]No,but I would love to have a little chat with sheogorath or maybe other fictional charecters like the one and only JOKER!
Stoarmcloak or Impirial?[/quote]
I serve myself in a similar manner,I serve myself as someone of the Joker,and Sheogorath. I control my world in my own way, with myself as the mad man who does what he want when he wants. I view the world from a similar perspective as that of sheogorath,with Every other deserving being knowing of me(Like Demons,Angels,Elementals and every being worth worship playing a similar role to the earth in a way that the aedra and deadra do) trying to use me to help them with one manner or another,with Satan and God as allies,and Me controlling my Life 1000 000 days at a time,and me Being God of my own world in My Dreams… Life is all but perception… This is mine…
This same thought hit me. I too believe that either the developers are magicians (perhaps seen Mundus and thus decided to create a game about) or simply has a strong fascination with the occult.
I too would like to speak to myself.
i posted a bit about this in another topic.
Hello, I’m genuinely curious on this. I dont understand how anyone could contact the daedra when it is a known fabrication? Not trying to be insulting and I feel like I’m missing something here. How could you contact such a thing, is it like when E.A. spoke to Azazel as to being and that he came into existence when E.A. brought him, what is reality concepts or is it something else? Also, is the books in skyrim truly something to hold usable knowledge? Anyway as I mentioned I’m truly curious and I am new to this community I’m not fully caught up here, trying to break down those boundaries.
I was think8ing of something similar since the concept of the Daedra and Aedra draws froma ctual existent forces in the universe. I am also in search of a suitable way to work with such deities in similar fashion as the Daedra mostly (LHP) and my aim is to actually derive some kind of runic formulas and incantations to be used in a manners such as the chaos magic sigils and runes
Many people work with “fictional” beings, short version is the belief that they either exist as created thought-forms which have developed power through repeat focus of many people, or that they’re masks of various archetypes and/or actual spirits.
It’s something I do myself, I posted a bit about it here:
Hey, @Mapachtli … You’re asking really good questions.
Lady Eva gave you her take on it. I’ll give you mine.
When we learn magick, we build up a mental understanding of how it works. I call this a “magickal mental model”. And your model may be very different to my model, but yours works for you and mine works for me.
That’s what makes it so hard to discuss this stuff. We have to translate from each other’s models into our own models or become flexible enough mentally that we can set aside our old model and adopt a new model. (Hint: There’s some power in that italicized part.)
Here’s the magickal mental model that the spirits taught me to work with so I can do stuff like this …
Think of the Source of All Things as a Black Sea of Unlimited Potential. It is everything that could possibly be before it is anything.
Several ancient cultures had specific names for this and they felt it was alive. We often still refer to it today as the Abyss or the Void.
Based on my own personal experiences and working with it through many different forms, I believe it is Living Power, Pure Consciousness. And I believe it is the Source of All Things Before They Become Things.
When I reach out to a spirit, I believe this Living Consciousness flows into the form of that spirit and interacts with me through that spirit’s characteristics. The spirits themselves have taught me to see their identities as Masks that this Living Consciousness can wear.
Here’s the mental picture they’ve given me to understand it …
Imagine you’re looking into space at a field of stars.
Each star would represent a different Mask, a different Form that energy can take.
Some of those stars would be humans, some of those stars would be spirits.
Some of those stars are closer together (sharing more similar characteristics) and some of those stars are farther apart (sharing less characteristics).
But all of the stars are floating within the same Black Sea, the Abyss, the Unlimited Field of Pure Consciousness. And all the stars are made of that energy. We’re just individual points of Consciousness rather than the Entire Consciousness.
When we make a connection to a spirit, imagine a line of energy connecting one star to another. You can imagine the stars moving closer to one another or even merging together into a new star for a time and then separating again.
In other words, I feel that when I reach out to a spirit, the Abyss temporarily limits a part of it’s own energy in that spirit’s Form (or Aspect or Mask) in order to interact with me and then it release that energy back up into the Black Sea of Unlimited Potential when we’re done.
And it doesn’t seem to matter whether the Mask was seen as a spirit or god by an ancient culture or whether I spent a few minutes creating it in my own mind. The Living Power flows into it for me either way and interacts with me.
Now don’t me wrong. These Masks all feel very different and have different characteristics. They are very different patterns of energy. I just feel they’re made of the same Stuff, the same Living Power, the same Super Consciousness. And they’ve convinced me of this through our experiences together.
When we evoke another human being, I feel this is actually what’s happening. I believe it’s the Abyss, the Living Power, flowing into that person’s Mask and using it to interact with us. It feels like that other human being … and the may even feel some weird sensations from the energetic connection… but I don’t think it’s their Conscious Self, the part you would call that person’s name.
And because we’re all a part of the Abyss, the Black Sea of Unlimited Potential, we have access to everything within that. I think that’s how psychic abilities work. We’re simply shifting our perceptions and awareness around within the other parts of this energetic field we’re all a part of.
This magickal mental model seems to correspond pretty closely to the ancient Sumerians model.
I can’t prove this is “the right way” and I don’t even want to. I don’t care about being right. It’s simply effective for me and so I use it.
If it works for you, use it. If it doesn’t, find another magickal mental model that does and use that.
Just don’t fall into the trap of arguing about who is right and who is wrong.
Everything is possible. Not anything. Everything. Even things that seem to contradict each other.
Great insight, course your thesis creates more questions for me it did answer the initial one
Damn straight, that’s the most important thing
Good, an adept and a master always have more question that needs fulfilled. Thus how they have aquired that knowledge and experience, because they know there’s always more questions that needs answered.
The questions are never ending, deeper you go into magick the more questions arise. But that is alot of the fun, especially when looking into questions regarding the nature of reailty and the methods on how to affect it.
From my experiences this rabbit hole leads towards the magicain becoming a creator in their own right. then spirits/entity etc become as teachers on to advance in ones studies or how to cause a specific change within and without.
All is Mind - The Kybalion.
Our take on this matches, it’s just the terminology that differs… interesting. 
