Financial Transformation Magick - initial thoughts on new book

It’s not just this particular book. The Gallery of Magick insists that all of their works be obtained legitimately. Personally, I don’t have a problem with that. I’m glad that they are very upfront about it, so people are aware.

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In other news, I just finished Ritual 3, Golden Silence. I missed a day here and there and had to make it up at the end. I had a lot going on in my life the past couple of weeks, so I will let that be my excuse.

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Finished Ritual 10 today. The effects of these rituals have been very subtle (at least for me) and more about making internal changes than manifesting external results, so I’ve been wondering about what happens when you act against the magick. For example, Ritual 10 is about breaking the chains of debt, but what happens if you continue spending money? Does that mean you’ve destroyed the magick or that the internal change hasn’t fully taken place yet? :thinking:

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This is a very interesting question. I don’t think that you would destroy the magick by continuing on your normal path. Using Ritual 10 as an example, breaking the chains of debt is not a quick fix for most people. Yes, of course, spending less would be a good first step. To stop adding to your current debt should occur, but you have to pay off that current debt as well, which could be a months or even years-long process depending on the amount of debt and your personal ability to put chunks of money toward that goal.

I imagine it as more of an internal shift which will manifest over time. This magick seems subtle to me, also. It is not a bad thing, it’s just not as sexy as the more blatant magical effects we sometimes achieve.

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I’m still on the fence about this book. The effects are so subtle as to be almost nonexistent. It seems like a huge time investment for very little actual gain. While I do see the value in the internal shifts it initiates, when you’re trying to improve your external financial circumstances and scrambling to pay your bills, you don’t usually have the time to waste doing a bunch of rituals for 11 or 19 days with no payoff. I think the original Wealth Magick was a better program for actual external changes despite the upheaval some experienced with Elubatel, and why I think this book would work best for most people if it is combined with other forms of results based money magick. I’m halfway through ritual 11, having spent over six months on this, and haven’t seen any real effects except maybe an internal nudge here and there.

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Part of me does wish I did wealth magick instead, I wouldn’t mind a little upheaval. But even without short term results I would like to set myself up for the long run. Also, since a bunch of forum people were working though it I thought it would be fun to do so as well.

I personally have an easier time with magick meant to change the external world than stuff meant to change myself. I do inner work for its own sake, and do rituals for external things. But usually I don’t try to change myself to get results. If my inner work happens to help my magick, then so much the better. This obviously is not a common experience, most occult authors teach the opposite, like Damon Brand. The main book I am working through The Way of the Golden Section has the same philosophy as Brand.

FTM is a bit unusual for my practice.

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My impression of this work is that it’s the long distance approach. I wouldn’t turn to it for immediate change. If I needed money right away it wouldn’t be on the list of Magick I would go to.

I think however that if I was thinking 10-20yrs down the road it would be massive. This kind of work brings to mind a snowball rolling down a hill.

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Agreed. I think this is mainly a book for people who are already decently stable financially, or for younger folks who are just starting out in life. It would be a great way to set up a college student for a success life, for example.

I think this may be where I’m lacking as I find that I have a difficult time thinking more than a month or two ahead. I’m more inclined towards instant gratification than delayed gratification. I want what I want now, not ten years down the road.

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Interesting, I hit 50 next year, so wondering if its worth me doing this one

To be fair, I feel like this is the sort of system that mostly work long term, with compounding effects years after years. I don’t think anyone should approach that system and except, like, a lump sum of money, a new job, or a raise within 6 months working with it. I don’t recall everything that was said in the book but that doesn’t seem like that kind of book to me.

Personally I’d approach that system with the mindset that I am doing it for the me 10 years in the future. If I need a raise or a new job or to start a business in the next following months, there are actual rituals for that.

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Yup exactly, that’s not the magick to use if you need immediate money. That’s clearly the wrong tool here if this is what you’re after.

This is such a good discussion.

I am also on the fence with this working. I have mentioned before that I don’t feel anything with it. This is not unheard of, of course, and I have tried to remain in a positive frame of mind about it. To a certain extent.

I am financially stable, to say the least. Looking through the book, I can see some benefit to Ritual 9, Removing Resistance, for me. I have done a lot of work on this in the past, but sure, more is better. Ritual 12, Identifying Opportunity. Again, yes, give me some more of that. But since we have established that it will take approximately 6 months to reach these rituals, is that the best use of my time and energy?

Is it wholly inappropriate to skip forward to where I think I belong? (Probably.)

To my mind, your age isn’t the issue so much as the fact that you have struggled to immerse yourself in the working. Perhaps your intuition is giving you guidance here. Sometimes you just know…

Prior to the beginning of this working, I was absolutely drawn to Wealth Magick. I even put off beginning Financial Transformation Magick to complete the first ritual in Wealth Magick, which felt quite powerful. (I recorded my own voice reading the “instructions”, and followed along, so it was a very fluid ritual.)

I hesitated to move on to the second ritual due to the rumored life upheaval which can occur. I’m not really frightened of it, as I completely understand that big change requires upheaval. However, I do have something going on in a couple of months that I need to complete before I can consider making big changes in my life - a years-long project involving international travel with a sprinkling of legal issues. I prefer to return to my native environment before I shake things up.

But ultimately, I DO want to shake things up. It seems unlikely that I’m going to get that from Financial Transformation Magick. This was kind of the point in the writing of this book, if I understand it correctly. It is a gentler version than the previous one. It’s good to have different options.

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I’ve finished Ritual 11, which is basically a ritual for a magical boost to the act of financial saving. In his book Financial Sorcery, Jason Miller provides mundane financial advice that includes things like paying off debt and having savings, which are what most people do anyway, and Financial Transformation seeks to give these normal financial steps a little magical support.

My days have been blending into each other lately and I often lose track of how many days I’ve been doing a ritual but for the first time I actually managed to go the entire 11 days without missing a single day lol

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Strangely, I have been finding myself with the urge to spend money after rituals 10, 11, and now 12.

That’s interesting… :frowning:

Hm…I’m finding the sigil for ritual 12 opening much easier than the previous rituals. I’m 8 days into the 11 and it has yet to go dead unlike most of the previous sigils. :thinking:

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I’m now on ritual 14. I ended up letting four days pass in between rituals 13 and 14 instead of the usual 2. I’m starting to lose interest in this system.

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Very boring book

I completely lost interest.

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