Can you be on the LHP and NOT be a Satanist?

Black Magick & The Left Hand Path
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What about Wiccans Pagans, and Atheists?

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I believe so

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Hay Rahnoren check this see if you like and it is still available its your turn.

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As I have mentioned above, LHP and RHP are just labels. They do not define me.

The only label I define myself by is “I AM”.

That is the only label that matters.

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Most LHPs ain’t Satanist. Lol.

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Same and yes to your original question.

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And Luciferians are not Satanists. And, vice~versa.

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Some Luciferians believe in Lucifer as an actual deity. However, Lucifer is not worshipped as the Judeo-Christian God but is revered and followed as a teacher and friend. Theistic Luciferians are followers of the Left-Hand Path and may adhere to different dogmata put forth by organizations such as the Neo-Luciferian Church or other congregations which are heavily focused on ceremonial magic, the occult, and literal interpretations of spiritual stories and figures
I believe that we are Luciferians…I thought I was a Satanit but after reading this, I now believe that I am a Luciferian.
Copied from Wikipedia.
Hoped this helped.

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The “left hand” being associated with evil, I believe, is present in multiple cultures. Most notably, it is the term used in a form of Hindu Tantra. So, it depends on what you mean by “left hand”. Come to think of it, what do you mean by “Satan”?

Jesus called Talmudic Jews a “synagogue of Satan”. Certain sects of Christianity deem other types of Christians “Satanic”. Monotheists call polytheists Satanic, but whether Allah, Yahweh, Jesus, etc. are interchangeable or not, most of their followers certainly do not believe so. Satan is “Antinomial” (against the “law”), “Adversarial”, evolutionary, bestial, and/or Chaotic depending on who you ask.

Any time these subjects are up for debate, I think the most important thing is to put them in context by asking what the terms themselves mean. However, as for the answer, there is no substitute for direct gnosis - which goes beyond words.

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You’re into street-level continental Freemasonry, which is common in the Black community, especially if you have Haitian roots.

You’re also a Freethinker with Libertarian tendencies.

Yes, you can be put in boxes. You’ll reject the boxes, but your mode of thought is pretty commonplace. It’s just not common for the people you know who go to church and are religious or superstitious.

No, that’s Libertarianism.

The LHP in both East (Vama Marga Tantra) and West (French Satanism) is sex magick.

In the Black community, the LHP is pimping and macking, or hustling and gang activity, which is the Black take on Eastern and Western Assassination (Indian Thugees and Western Sicilians or Cossacks).

If you are interested in doing LHP from a Black male perspective, become a mack and use Kunyaza to give women orgasms. Or become a pimp. Or if you prefer killing to sexual activity, affiliate yourself with gang activity in your region. This puts you in the LHP for real rather than in theory.

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I AM not a pimp or a mack, even though I understand the psychological and social principles based on my NLP/Hypnosis training and personal life experience. I AM also not a gangster, but I AM a hustler in the legitimate entrepreneurial aspect of doing “freelance, side-hustles” and trying to hold down a job in corporate America to “pay the bills” and “make ends meet”. My writing hustle does not pay at all even though I’ve been told that I’m good at it.

Hah!

Since people only understand labels:

First, I do not consider myself a “black magickian”. I AM a grey magickian in the sense that I embrace (or use) tools from the Light (RHP) and the Dark (LHP) sides to further my Ascent. I realize that while I am temporarily existing in the physical realm in this “skin suit”, I AM subject to the rules and various laws within it to survive. So I have no problem calling on an entity such as a demon or an angel to help me fulfill my material needs for food, shelter, income, sex etc. It is much better to constantly bowing and praying to an invisible entity that promises “eternal life” and to “take my sins away”. Now, don’t get me wrong, I love Jesus. And Buddha. And Krisha. And Allah. And Lucifer. And Belial. And King Paimon. And Mohammed. And Bune.

Yet, I AM the one doing all the “leg work” in this physical reality. Even the various entities I mentioned above constantly state in their teachings common threads:

  • Treat others the way you wish you be treated with respect and dignity.
  • The energy (intentions, actions) you put into the universe you will receive back. Also known as Karma.
  • Don’t expect to lay on your ass and wait for shit to happen. You have to make it happen. or, as the New Testament says, “Faith without works is nothing.”
  • Etc. and etc.

This is how I live my life. I realize that I have to be my own God in order to survive and in the process, Ascend.

Not Freemasonry exactly, but the Moorish Science Temple of America even though I haven’t been to a Temple in years. I know what the Masons know because I know a 32rd Degree Mason who introduced me to the Moorish Science Temple of America and told me all the rituals and gave a list of books and videos. So I did my own research.

Brother, you have “hit the nail on the head”. You are exactly right.

Libertarianism (especially Anarcho-capitalism) is more in line with the LHP philosophy. Authoritarianism (especially Fascism and Ultra-Liberalism) usually claims RHP philosophy. Noam Chomsky known as a socialist philosopher, has been quoted by both the Right and the Left. Both sides have claimed Ayn Rand too.

I AM actually closer to a Five Percenter than a Freemason though. I have also dealt with an offshoot group called the Nuwapians too.

“Members of the group call themselves Allah’s Five Percenters, which reflects the concept that ten percent of the people in the world know the truth of existence, and those elites and their agents opt to keep eighty-five percent of the world in ignorance and under their controlling thumb; the remaining five percent are those who know the truth and are determined to enlighten the eighty-five percent (the “deaf, dumb, and blind” masses).” – Five Percent Nation, Wikipedia

So using the the above definition, most of the people on the BALG can be classified as Five Percenters. By the way, being a Five Percenter is not exclusively a "Black community thing."

"Allah the Father stated that he was “neither pro-black nor anti-white.” In his “National Statement” given at Brookdale College in Monmouth County New Jersey in 1998, Dumar Wa’de Allah, National Spokesman for the NGE, stated “… we are not anti-white, nor pro-black. In fact, we have white Five Percenters.” NGE websites and articles state, “We as a collective are not anti-white nor pro-black. We are pro-righteous and anti-devilishment.” [Some RHP there, hmm?]

There have been from the organization’s inception Five Percenters of various ethnicities. The most well-known Caucasian Five Percenter is John Michael Kennedy, who met Allah in 1965. Allah proclaimed Kennedy a “righteous man” and renamed him Azreal. Michael M. Knight’s The Five Percenters includes a photo of a gathering of Five Percenters that includes Barkim, who Knight describes as “one of the earliest white Five Percenters” and his siblings. Knight’s book also includes two photos of Allah with Gottehrer, who Allah called “Moses.” Dr. Sujan Dass, who is better known as Supreme Understanding, is a Bangladeshi-American Five Percenter and an influential and prolific writer. His book How to Hustle and Win: A Survival Guide for the Ghetto has been described as having the same impact on the hip hop generation as The Autobiography of Malcolm X and Alex Haley’s Roots: The Saga of an American Family had on previous generations of African Americans." – Five Percent Nation, Wikipedia

Is E.A. Koetting a Five-Percenter? I would like to see a video of his take on this Five-Percenter philosophy.

I AM not a violent person. I will only use violence as a last resort for self-defense or to protect others. So no gang activity for me.

No pimping for me. “Pimpin’ ain’t easy.” Women don’t seem that attracted to me anyway.

This sounds interesting, when I do find a woman interesting enough to have sex with. I AM definitely looking into this!

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I’m not much into labels, but I don’t identify as an atheist, because these days it often implies scientific materialism, and that is something I do not subscribe to at all.
I see Satanism and LHP as over lapping categories, but not the same thing. There are several different types of Satanists, so I think it is actually kind of a vague meaningless label. The only thing they all have in common is some kind of anti-nomism, or rebellion against some kind of status quo.
LHP is more of a category that applies to magical practice, and whether you are trying to merge with the source (RHP) or become your own god (LHP). Following some cult religious practice cause everyone in your group is doing it seems to be more a RHP activity to me, especially when combined with some ethics guidelines, but then again, I’m not entirely sure sometimes. Does RHP imply some kind of hierarchy and priesthood too?

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Satanist carries a lot of impact. But being LHP does not force to be “Satanist”. Considering how young the Concept of ‘Satan’- there are hundreds of other more Ancient and Force Filled options. I can replace “Satan” or Satanism, with Adversarial Current. RHP mostly donotes a system in which people have to ’ renounce their own Divine Nature’ and SUBMIT IN A PROSTRATE MANNER to a would be "Higher Being’… who could also be and is often acknowledged by some as “Satan”.
I would suggest, as I can see you are wanting to move forward while keeping your feet as static as possible in a “Known and Comfortable’ place. is simply 'label yourself] which is a taboo in Buddhism- make the label “Becoming” you are neither this or that, you weren’t before and your have not charted and bound yourself to any particular horizon. [you forgot the Genesis reference " They have Become As One Of Us…” As you are already a God, you will not be losing that regardless of how you try— so what would be the point of slapping any label upon yourself??
Good luck