Definetely not. Especially for King Paimon. This never happens.
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Thank You
@Rahul_Nair
Tbh, I would say to use the protective circle. EA Koetting does say it’s rude, but the thing is, for goetic spirits a beginner must use the circle. It not only protects to some degree but also provides the illusion that you are in the centre of the Earth.
Like, Yeah. EA Koetting actually mentions in one of his books, that for a beginner, It’s very important to use a circle…I would recommend to use a circle.
The Goetic spirits understand. Because You may end up summoning an imposter. And if you are not using a circle, they can get to you easily.
Just my 2 cents. But everyone has there own style
And @Rahul_Nair Please PLEASE Learn the LBRP before summoning any entities. Read and research more. You are not ready to summon yet. Let me reapeat something again, YOU MAY END UP SUMMONING AN IMPOSTER SPIRIT. YES IMPOSTER. NOT KING PAIMON. SOMEONE WHO WILL PRETEND TO BE KING PAIMON.
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Thank You so much,I am open to suggestions and yes I won’t as you have warned me now for sure,i will take it as a warning to not yet summon one,Lots of Love,Thank You.
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XD no problem Man. I will leave you with a PM…if you have any questions please ask…I am a beginner myself but I have evoked and been attacked by many spirits. I have a little experience. I take protection very siously beause I have been attacked by many spirits. It was horrible.
And I can see that DarkestKnight is writing something. Please listen to him because he is a PRO. He has a lot of knowledge on these things.
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I don’t even use the LBRP. Feel free to use another banishing method/cleansing method if you’d like.
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There is a banishing ritual relating to Lucifer. I think that is much easier then the LBRP. You can try that out as well.
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@Maxwell What do you think abotu this? I am quite fond of this one XD
@Rahul_Nair Here is a the Lucifer’s Serpent banishing Ritual…Seems really nice
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I guess I have read somewhere that we shouldn’t do banishing as it’s like an insult and that shouldn’t be done,.
For instance, I use a servitor and basic “I’m the god of this room/body” logic. I got a nice banishing servitor that I trace in the air that feeds off of the energy it disperses. It’s super effective.
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That’s such a great idea!!
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Any ritual works, the more convenient the better. All rituals are just to get your mind in the mood, you can honestly just will energy out/away.
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The more one practice sees results, even a minor one that takes only a few steps, the better it works.
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This is nowhere near correct. Where did you hear that? lol
Sounds like religious propaganda from the pro-demon crowd to me.
A circle serves a bigger function than just protection. It is the space where you become God, and remove yourself from the mundane world, something very important for a beginner.
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Okay, I didn’t know this. I heard it from a lot of regulars on the forum.
Okay, I’ll actually start imagining me in that… at all times. I’m great at visualization.
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When you have a lot of experience in ceremonial magick, you will reach the point where you evoke without a circle, but when you are a beginner, there is a reason why the casting of a circle is taught first.
EA teaches the use of circles in both Evoking Eternity and Works of Darkness, as well as the evocation course, so it seems a little funny to me that he would now suddenly say it’s “rude.” That is something I would expect from a demonalator, someone who worships demons, not a ceremonial magician. Perhaps the change is part of his evolution.
The biggest thing casting a circle does for a beginner, is focus. It helps the magician to get into the mindset for magick and leave the “normal” world behind. Eventually, with practice, casting the circle will act as an anchor to your subconscious and immediately put you in the mindset necessary.
And for the record, there are many free form styles of evocation that do not use circles. What I am discussing is specifically ceremonial magick ie the tradition from which the Goetia originates.
@Rahul_Nair A banishing ritual is not an insult. It’s basic spiritual hygiene. It clears your working area, and sets up a boundary so no forces or energies can interfere with what you are going to do, which is summon a spirit.
However, if you feel that it might offend, there are plenty of demonic banishing incantations available here that you can use in place of a full fledged ritual. It will clear the area but it won’t set a boundary.
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I am the type of person who never really leaves the world of magick behind.
I see it as a sanctioned wall that seperate me from the mundane. A space of creation so to speak.
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I bought a Ceremonial Magick Goetia Circle with Tetragrammation to put sigils in
I will be summoning Marbas and Asmodeus to appear in solid form to ask for there help.
Recommended Reading.
These books are pretty good, but the most difficult things considered in it are the availability of the requirements. Does it have any substitute???