[quote=“redcircle, post:81, topic:132”][quote=“Sultitan_Itan, post:78, topic:132”]I hate to spoil everybody’s fun, but a non-cyphered version of the Abramelin manuscript was discovered and published back in 2006.
Since part of the power of the squares is chanting the words as a mantra, you’d think more people would care but the old cypher version is free and the complete version costs money so everyone just ignores the good one.
SEGOR
EGAMO
GAZAG
OMAGE
ROGES[/quote]
To be clear, by chanting them as a mantra, are there five spirits then?
Making this the mantra: “SEGOR, EGAMO, GAZAG, OMAGE, ROGES” ?[/quote]
Curious, have you tried opening this non-cyphered version and using the mantra of the spirit-names, redcircle?
I’m thinking about giving this a go and was curious if anyone here as tried this version… Thanks.
Did you use the non-cyphered version that was mentioned above?[/quote]
I did yes. I requested each of them the following way:
Please bring me £1.400 SEGOR
Please bring me £1.400 EGAMO
Please bring me £1.400 GAZAG
Please bring me £1.400 OMAGE
Please bring me £1.400 ROGES
I requested £1.400 but received $1.440 (note the change in currency), having said that…more money should be on their way. I will try and use a more ‘unlimited’ request next time.
[quote=“Avernus, post:82, topic:132”][quote=“redcircle, post:81, topic:132”][quote=“Sultitan_Itan, post:78, topic:132”]I hate to spoil everybody’s fun, but a non-cyphered version of the Abramelin manuscript was discovered and published back in 2006.
Since part of the power of the squares is chanting the words as a mantra, you’d think more people would care but the old cypher version is free and the complete version costs money so everyone just ignores the good one.
SEGOR
EGAMO
GAZAG
OMAGE
ROGES[/quote]
To be clear, by chanting them as a mantra, are there five spirits then?
Making this the mantra: “SEGOR, EGAMO, GAZAG, OMAGE, ROGES” ?[/quote]
Curious, have you tried opening this non-cyphered version and using the mantra of the spirit-names, redcircle?
I’m thinking about giving this a go and was curious if anyone here as tried this version… Thanks.[/quote]
I’ve tried both a few times, just by opening them like I would a sigil and pouring intent in. I’ve had some good results that I wasn’t expecting. Not perfect results, but definitely money came that I wasn’t looking for / working for until it came.
I’d like to try it by chanting the spirit names after doing what I’ve done before.
Cloud9, great info, thank you! I plan to try opening this and speaking to the spirits individually as you suggested.
I've tried both a few times, just by opening them like I would a sigil and pouring intent in. I've had some good results that I wasn't expecting. Not perfect results, but definitely money came that I wasn't looking for / working for until it came.
I’d like to try it by chanting the spirit names after doing what I’ve done before.
Good to hear. I suppose some experimentation is in order for this bad-boy. Thanks.
[quote=“Sultitan_Itan, post:78, topic:132”]I hate to spoil everybody’s fun, but a non-cyphered version of the Abramelin manuscript was discovered and published back in 2006.
Since part of the power of the squares is chanting the words as a mantra, you’d think more people would care but the old cypher version is free and the complete version costs money so everyone just ignores the good one.
SEGOR
EGAMO
GAZAG
OMAGE
ROGES[/quote]
In the same chapter of the Dehn-Guth book,
square 16-18 is listed as BETIFER … etc.
I think this is a mistake (perhaps intentional-- which means ciphered).
Any reason why it would not be BETISER ?
the square corresponds to SLMM 16-15
Just as a follow up to this thread, about 3 months ago I opened this square and issued my task to the spirits individually.
SEGOR
EGAMO
GAZAG
OMAGE
ROGES
I kind of forgot about it until this weekend I realized the result had manifested earlier that week, in a more indirect fashion (which is why I didn’t recognize it). I had won a raffle prize for something I don’t really have any interest in - hockey tickets - which I plan to sell. So, the money is coming to me in a round-about way.
Having said that, the amount was off and it certainly took quite some time to generate the cash. It could have to do with my focus or the fact I hadn’t worked with a square before. I presume another round is in order.
[quote=“Avernus, post:91, topic:132”]Just as a follow up to this thread, about 3 months ago I opened this square and issued my task to the spirits individually.
SEGOR
EGAMO
GAZAG
OMAGE
ROGES
I kind of forgot about it until this weekend I realized the result had manifested earlier that week, in a more indirect fashion (which is why I didn’t recognize it). I had won a raffle prize for something I don’t really have any interest in - hockey tickets - which I plan to sell. So, the money is coming to me in a round-about way.
Having said that, the amount was off and it certainly took quite some time to generate the cash. It could have to do with my focus or the fact I hadn’t worked with a square before. I presume another round is in order.[/quote]
hi…i have a question here…you said you opened the square and issued your task to the spirits individually…how many spirits this square represents??
Just to add something to this topic - The Abramelin Squares are thought to be a side-benefit of the Abramelin Operation. I believe they can be used without it, but they are supposedly most powerful after one has mastered the operation.
Jason Newcomb’s book 21st Century Mage gives a lot of background on the operation, including multiple methods he thinks could be used by modern practitioners to achieve it. He also spends some time talking about the squares. Worth a look.
I basically followed what Cloud9 mentioned earlier in the thread:
Open the square and then address the spirits in this way…
Please bring me [insert amount] SEGOR
Please bring me [insert amount] EGAMO
Please bring me [insert amount] GAZAG
Please bring me [insert amount] OMAGE
Please bring me [insert amount] ROGES
Hope that helps.
redcircle - I’m thinking this is why I had half-ass success with this square. I’ve honestly had better results using Nitika from the NAP paradigm, but that’s only my experience. I’ll check out Jason’s text. Thanks!
[quote=“dron, post:95, topic:132”]ROGES=SEGOR BACKWARDS
OMAGE=EGAMO BACKWARDS
GAZAG=THE SAME
so this square represents 3 spirits??[/quote]
Interesting.
Every time I use this square I drop into the Gnostic Trance aka T/G Sync and wait for the letters to start flashing. I write down the flashing letters in the order in which they flash and then come back to the square. I do this until I have names, I only ever got three.
This square gave me a huge win on an online casino about 4 months ago. The square was written in Dragons blood and charged in a ritual. A few days later I won $1,300 on an online casino, playing slots.
I had the square next to me and it I could feel the energy coming from it. It was hot. I placed it on the computer screen and said something like “bring me lots of cash.” A few spins later I won all that cash. The slot machine went crazy!!.
Shame a few days later I gambled it all away I had a splitting headache for days after that loss and I also had loads of bad luck after that.
Ive since burnt the square. I will definitely create another square and when it brings in some cash i’m gonna burn it and spend the cash ASAP.
this square has two versions…which one is more suitable?the old one(cyphered) or the new one(dechyphered)??
i opened the old one…i felt a presence in my room.
I recently opened a square and soon after recieved $500 dollars out of the blue. My question is what should I do with the square now that I’ve recieved the money? Do I burn the square in the same way I would with a sigil that has achieved it’s goal?
I had a splitting headache for days after that loss and I also had loads of bad luck after that.