I have been on a journey of binding the 72 demons of Solomon for self-improvement but I have reached a bottleneck. Unlike the others I have bound previously, Agares I struggle to bind.
He helps you find lost people but in my field of work with the 72, its metaphorical. Im not looking for people I’ve lost, I’m looking for the part of me thats lost.
So the question I have for others, was Agares someone you had to work with over the course of months? Is that normal? As I said for the others I have bound, there was no “hesitation”. I did the ritual, burned the sigil and they were bound but for Agares, it has been months and I still haven’t bound him yet.
I did learn through working with him however that I have to let go of who I lost-in referring to a past life and a past flame I had on the astral as Khonshu.
I had become obsessed with finding her “avatar” and kept looking for signs in people that I thought were her.
I like Agares but I work with him on other things, like gardening, which I’m very lazy about but still get a harvest.
When they don’t agree to do a working, it’s (so far) always been because either I as asking the wrong question. I might have been assumptive about what I thought a root cause was, but I was barking up the wrong tree, as it were, or, it’s because I can so it myself and they don;t see it as thier concern.
I feel like in this case it’s probably both. Agares brings back runaways, but your target is not a runaway. Maybe the target does not want to perform this work in this life an is the one blocking you, which would explain why you have to let that go. Magick with other people involved is always the hardest because they have their own ideas and don’t always want to play ball. Or maybe it’s just not time yet.
I’d suggest a change in tactics, maybe, such as, read up on how Robert Munroe used astral travel with a guide to investigate his past lives in his book Ultimate Journey. He meets a lot of people in his journeys only to slowly realise they are all his own incarnations, and he gets to understand what each was working on.
I think the key thing is the target isn’t anybody else: I am the target I always have been. From the 72 I have worked with like Bael, Shax, Paimon and Labolas, I have been able to complete the operation, summon them and then bind them and learn things about myself-how to be invisible by not telling everyone “hey I like someone” or “I got a job opportunity”, what it meant to be blinded by a desire for romance, where my ambitions lay and how to shed my self’hatred.
While the others took a week or two max to bind, Agares is taking me months mostly because I am asking myself, "what did I run away from? Who did I lose? How did I lose myself in the process; some questions have been answered others are still to be determined. Like one of the things I ran away from was my hobby of drawing and I found the desire to go back to doing it again.
And every time I go to do the ritual, I end up hesitant. The last thing I heard him say was a few weeks back and it was along the lines kf “you still have much to learn”
I don’t think you can rush deep psychological work and he can’t do it for you. If you’re not ready to face whatever it is, your own protections will not allow it.
By no means do I want to rush it. My master even told me on her own journey with the 72, its going to take a very long time but by the end of it, you’ll see the results. I do it this way for the whole “know thyself” rule. It even reminds me of a dream I had with Agares back in 2020 where he turned my insides out and I became a new person, but I am curious as to what you mean by my protections won’t let me.
Psychological barriers. I’m speculating, but something seems to be in the way. Maybe there’s something about this past life that isn’t what you want to know right now. or maybe it’s just too far out of your current experience to make sense of.
Or maybe Agares didn’t want to be “bound” and that paradigm is an obstacle.
I do find for myself, no entity has ever helped me find put about past lives. Unless they were there, like Amon and Bael for me, but most were not.
In all cases I needed to work with my subconscious, as that can remote view anything and everything. Even so, if it cannot translate what it “sees” to something your conscious mind can understand then that’s a blocker. That’s when you start getting very weird imagery and the symbology can be very hard to interpret.
I should’ve phrased it better-I’m not looking for my past lives, I’m looking for who or what I ran away from in those past lives to become human but also while I was working at one of my jobs last night, I heard him speak again-“It’s not your past lives you ran away from. It’s something different that you run away from that is blocking you from binding me”.
I figured, my blockage was similar to my masters cause she had to confront the people she ran away from in her past lives but mine is different as I figured it might be.
That being said, I did figure out that my past marriage(spiritual marriage) I did run away from to become human but its also something I had to let go because I am no longer Khonshu. I am Maní now. And she has been accepting of that.
Really the whole point of this thread I made was to compare with others and see if they too have had to spend ages working with Agares before binding.
You say to consider that Agares does not want bound-For me, binding isn’t the whole submit to my will JCI interpretation; binding is a redirection of negative energy into the “brass vessel”(in my case its my copy of the lesser key of solomon) and transforming it into something positive.
Its like redirection of lighting in Avatar the last airbender, you’re redirecting the energy and letting it flow through you.
Are you seeing Agares as negative, so you’re trying to take Agares’ negative energy and transform it into positive? What if he’s actually an angel as some of them seem to be?
A lot of the 72 are fallen angels or were demonised for being foreign gods. They could all have a bunch of positive things about them same as we do but for every positive there is also a negative.
Lets take the inner Bael of me for instance-the positive to being invisible is that you don’t deal with al the drama and can “just be” but the negative side of being invisible is a desire to be seen such as through peacocking or saying “look at me! Look at me!” To anyone who can see you and so you do stupid things to get attention.
I learned after binding what the positive was. I found someone I wanted to pursue for in a relationship and instead of trying to change for them, I am myself and instead of telling everyone “I like this girl!” I only told my inner counsel of friends and in a split moment my body and mind reacted before I could and asked her out. No inner dialogue of “this is a mistake what if she says no?” It just happened because I was myself and not trying to impress them and while we’re not a couple, I just go for a whole “whatever happens will happen. No pressue.” and I told her that too.
For Agares, the positive in terms of the self for runaways is knowing when its right to run away such as running away from a job that pays well but because you get mistreated you run away but the negatives of being a runaway is that you runaway from things when times get tough: relationships, friendships, grief etc.
As with things in the yin and the Yang in my eyes, there is positive and negative. There can be no chaos without order and no darkness without light.
I don’t inherently see him as a negative, I just see the negativity as needs for transformation into positivity and thats what binding does. You’re not removing the negative per se, you’re putting the negative into a vessel while you act as a conduit for the positive if that makes sense.
Took some time to think and clear my head after a shower: and after a change in perspective I think I might’ve had an epiphany.
Suppose you’re right and there isn’t any negativity to bind, what then do I bind instead? He then represents something in my mind that isnt necessarily negative-but rather part of a defence mechanism in my body. The fight or flight response, the “fear”.
Fear is neither inherently negative or positive because fear can either be a motivator for you to push onward and succeed or likewise fear can make you “run away”.
What then does fear make me personally run away from? Its failure. I run away from failure because I am afraid to fail.
I ran away from college because I was afraid I’d fail in my aspirations, I ran away from writing because I was afraid no one would be interested in my writing and lastly, I ran away from drawing because I was afraid that failing in how I wanted a piece to look like would make me a failure. That is the hoop that I must navigate and learn from in talking to Agares through the evocation ritual and the binding.
Update: Now that I am aware of this, I feel both him and parasites pretending to be other entities I have bound because now that I am consciously aware of the fear of failure, I can feel my energy going haywire. I have wards around and I have my protector spirits in the house like Freyja and so any time I feel the anxiety and the fear, it kind of burns off of me as if I’m shedding my skin like a snake(funny since I was born in the year of the snake)
His energy feels strong and “negative” I would describe but its not negative its more earthly than anything else, same as the other goetia I have worked with.
I suppose as you become more aware of this energy, more aware of your own energy that is when parasitic entities hace a field day as they then are attracted to the fear you feel and as such will feast off of you if you let them.
