Why are angels and archangels not so responsive as demons?

This is something I’ve realized for a while. I’ve been trying to contact Michael (who I feel very close to for some reason) without success. I became emotional once because I felt his presence very intensely but after that episode, when I tried again absolutely nothing happened, I don’t even feel his presence anymore, no matter how long I try.
Which is very different from when I try to work with demons, I feel that they’re more responsive, even if I just feel a slightly energy change.
Are archangels (or, more specifically, Michael) more “difficult” to contact? Are they unwilling to talk to me for working with darker entities?

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No, they’re not harder to contact than demons. That’s a myth.

In my opinion, it is more likely that something is interfering with your call, or you are calling incorrectly somehow.

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Yeah, normally those blockages come from the caster’s belief system.

To give you one example:

Gabriel had huge issues contacting me for quite a while.

That was caused by a failure from the Angelic pantheon,
on a request of mine.
I had lost trust,
and simply didn’t want them around.

Still,
Gabriel did manage to reach me,
by going through a medium,
which seeked out my contanct on his behalf.

My personal shields and defense didn’t allow him,
to reach me directly,
yet,
he did manage to reach me.

But it took longer, and more effort then necessary.

Most of the time,
we’re not aware of our own mental blockages,
and shieldings being associated with them.

But you can,
consciously decide to call a specific angel or demon,
and intentionally open your shields up for it.

Normally not.
And in most cases,
they would at least take the time,
to tell you specifically,
what being is a problem for them,
so you could adjust and for example,
send Azazel away, in order to speak to Gabriel.

There are some specifically not liking each other that much,
just like in a big family,
some fractions don’t like each other.

But,
normally they won’t ignore a request because of it,
and simply tell you: “it’s okay, i come, i help you. but please send x away, for the time working with me.”

Sincerely,

¥’Berioth

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They probably just don’t want to talk to you, that’s also a possibility lol. They have free will to accept or deny your call. There’s no real incorrect way to contact a entity as long as you’re actually reaching out to that entity and not a thoughtform created by human consciousness. Which a lot of those exists due to your everyday occultists having a handful not being capable of telling the difference.

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I have noticed the same thing , no matter how many days a ritual takes I feel no presence by angels, even when the results show up so they do work for me . With demons it’s usually a 5 minute of sigil gazing and enn chanting and I feel them , some very strongly some a bit less. I’m not sure if this is true and can’t remember the source but heard somewhere that it’s because we are made of earth and demons are fire we are more sensitive to their energies!

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Try using the lbrp daily

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Well, not completely.

Angels, to a degree,
are bound through the will of “God”,
plus Evocation already bypasses that issue.

In evocation - when done correctly - you stand before them,
as their creator,
their master and God.

They should serve you,
when called correctly.

Try including more God-Names,
into your next evocation.

For Calling Angelic Forces,
try to include Names like:

El Shaday,
Adonay,
El Olam,
El Elyon,
El Betel;

Assume those names to be your own name,
during the evocation,
and speak them,
as your source of power,
during the conjurations.

Alternatively,
you can also use an Evocation Circle,
which is specifically designed for Angelic Evocation:

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Side Note:

Recently,
when i spoke in Numinosis Language ( God-Tongue, Pharao Tongue ),
to rightfully judge a Person,
i noticed myself spelling out the name Balam several times during that Incantation.

For the more advanced users of us,
Balam should be sufficient,
in replacing those God-Names,
i wrote up there,
for more RHP related uses.

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Simply using Balam name,
should work,
it certainly did in my use case.

Numinotic depiction:

Ba’al A’am.

Bal’a’am.

(meaning: God, that i am. I am god.)

so there’s no misunderstanding. :wink:

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A local depiction,
of Balam,
from my hometown,
Nuremburg.

Sincerely,

¥’Berioth

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In my opinion. They’re not harder to communicate with but they’re different. Angels and Archangels are not the same in nature. You can feel the presence of an Angel easily, but with Archangels it’s difficult because power can’t be felt unless you already have it, it can only be witnessed.

Know they heard you and act based on that assumption.

They don’t care about your beliefs or your altars or your offerings or ceremony, they only care about you. Not emotionally as organized religions preach, they have their own way of expressing emotions, but not the way we understand it. Their “love” and hate are different than ours. But they can feel and understand human emotions. Talking about Archangels. Angels are very emotional and respond to how you feel very fast. If you think of Angels as soldiers, messengers, workers, assistants…then Archangels would be kings.

Their main interest is a real relationship with you personally and individually according to their nature, that lasts beyond your temporary needs. They have their own agenda for that. Got nothing to do with religious beliefs.

If you’re working with Angels you will feel their presence, if you’re working with Archangels don’t focus on that much… just concentrate on what you want.

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definitely agreeing here!!!

Archangels,
are leaders,
are kings!!
Treat them as such!

similar with Nethers.

They’re Roalty.

They don’t need to prove that,
but they are. Consider Nethers,
as something like Dukes,
and Princes.
(basically those Princes,
which aren’t getting a throne for themselves,
and regardless of being overlooked by historians,
still,
carry the full capacity of their Royal Bloodline,
since they can still act in the Name of their respective king,
at any point in time.)

Just felt a need to fill that in.

IT’s not the exact truth,
but close enough,
to get those who’ll read it towards some understanding for it.

Sin,

¥’B

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But they are not bound to the will of man and humans can claim they call the name of God to demand an angel present themselves but I tend to view that as just some occultist getting ahead of themselves, If a angel or so comes it’s because they chose to but then again I also don’t really view archangels as higher powers unless they are seraphim archangels, or cherub archangels, to me archangel is a rank and depending on the angel their status is different. Of course a seraphim archangel like michael, zadkiel, gabriel, metaton and so forth will be of a higher status than a basic archangel or a cherub-Ophanim archangel so they are more likely to have the will to deny a random human who asks for them.

Then there’s also the case that they have responsibilities of their own to deal with first, I don’t really hold the belief angels and demons are omnipresent or omnipotent so that’s where my belief kinda differs from the norm of most people who view angels and demons as “super powers”

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Take it,
or leave it.

We’ve explained it detailed enough,
i think.

If you choose,
to believe differently,
that’s fine,
just don’t ask me to fix your problems resulting from that.

Sincerely,

¥’Berioth

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Don’t worry I have years of experience with both, your help is far from required :laughing:

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Yeah,
i’ve noticed.

I just found it a little bit racist,
from you,
to equal angelic race,
with degree of power / capability.

I mean, i do understand your viewpoint,
and i would certainly agree to it,
in various cases.

But we’re definitely getting a little bit ahead,
of the original question,
by going into the finer details.

If you want,
we can expand on it in a PM.

I’d be happy,
to hear more of your exact opinion there.

And it’s true,
especially were you’ve pointed out,
the stronger ones having own agenda,
own things to focus on,
and aligning that with the requests coming their way,
when they take up requests,
and even denying requests,
when they simply don’t fit their motivs.

It’s just not very fitting,
to discuss this,
when we’re currently helping someone,
to get the expierience down under his belt,
for reaching up to the understanding we share here.

And,
we all needed to start somewhere.

And for practice,
it is indeed importent,
to aproach these things with a general mindset of successfulness,
rather then feeding into the doubt.

The Original question,
i focused my answers toward, was:

And,
we could easily argue Michael is a leading enemy of Demons.

Now,
at the same time,
Michael does actually seek out to work with Dark practitioners,
in some cases,
and does definitely engage in conversation,
when he sees potential for resolving things,
and avoiding useless bloodshed.

Which in fact,
is one of the reasons for his leading role,
because he’s not just a stupid war-monger,
or soldier,
fighting for the last of it,
but rather an intelligent strategist,
which does value avoiding fight where it’s unnecessary.

again.

Getting ahead of,
what I actually wanted to say.
So yeah.
Definitely open for extending that on PM.

And maybe that last part was also tainted by my personal views a little bit to much. :wink:

Sincerely,

¥’Berioth

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No they’re no harder to contact than demons are.

It might be an issue regarding your energy not matching with theirs (if that makes sense).

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Your energy ties deeply into contact you may need to do an energy cleanse to take away the block and neg energy you have but all in all they are hard to call aND may not come unlike demons

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@PrinceX @Prophet @DarkestKnight do you guys know if archangels (especially Michael) are strong enough to defend against, say, jinns?

From my experience, yes… easily. Especially Michael.

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Yes.

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