I don’t know about y’all but whenever I’m talking to a demon with my clairaudience and I start to get the feeling that none of this is real, the demon insists to me that they are real. Take from that what you will.
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Thats how it is for me. During my evocation rituals, I hear the spirits. Usually upon summoning, I will hear them say something along the lines of “I am here”.
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Interesting. No matter how hard I trained my clairaudience or clairvoyance, I couldn’t hear or see spirits, only sense them with my body. But that could also be just a suggestion.
But a tulpa or imaginary friend can do the same thing.
How do you understand that it is not a “thought form” in your head that simply does what you have convinced yourself it should do?
The gold standard would probably be receiving information you didn’t know beforehand. If you get that, then you can at least be sure you weren’t just talking to yourself with extra steps.
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Yes, this is probably the best criterion for the veracity of an experience)
Have you tried a dream journal?
Since I started one, at some point I noticed anomalous entries that didn’t correspond to any dream. They were usually scrawled, didn’t seem to make much sense, and sometimes mixed two or three different languages. But after deciphering some of them, I managed to get some verifiable info I didn’t know beforehand.
If it’s a legit communication channel, it’s probably not the best one, because the loss of information seems to be enormous. But it doesn’t seem useless; also, the state just after waking up is the closest to an actual trance I’ve ever achieved.
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I sometimes write down my dreams, but only if they seem important to me. I’ve dreamed that certain people or religious figures were telling me a very precise message, but unfortunately, by the time I wake up and write it down, I lose some of the information. Sometimes, though, I wake up in a dream, thinking I’ve woken up in reality, and I’m writing down the dream, only to realize in the morning that I’ve written down a dream within another dream, not in reality.
But, more importantly, I would later verify the information or advice from such dreams, but it wasn’t always accurate, and the promised results never materialized. For example, in one of my dreams, I was once clearly told that if I started training single-leg squats, it would solve all my training problems, etc. I started, but it didn’t fix any of my fitness issues or back and knee pain, so apparently it was just a dream, not some kind of subtle message.
More often, I would find myself battling some truly ugly and terrifying demons in my dreams, and if I lost, the nightmares would continue until I achieved victory. It wasn’t that I was trying to fight them; it was more of a necessary defense. And such nightmares are rare, but when they happen, they always include something supernatural and these dreams are very clear, all the sensations are very distinct.
Besides this, I don’t keep a dream diary on purpose, since most dreams are a collection of vague events, scenes, and plots that don’t carry any message.
This definitely isn’t something to count on, but I got verifiable information… pretty much three times in my life, all within the last three weeks. And it was not in the dreams themselves, but in the anomalies I didn’t remember I wrote.
- At some point, I wrote “200 stakes (or actions, that’s the same word in Polish) of Enhanced Brain”, which I considered meaningless… but research led me to BrainCo, which has 强脑 characters in it’s Chinese name. The company isn’t public, but they filed for an IPO in January this year.
- Another time, there was an entry saying “zikra is close to being remembered”. If you write it as “dhikra”, it’s a word in Arabic that means “memory”. I don’t know Arabic and was never interested in the language enough to try to read it. I might have heard a word and its meaning in some context, but I’ve had very few opportunities to do it.
So it seems that when connected to a petition, this can be a genuine information channel, especially because when you wake up at night, you’re often in a state where half of your brain hasn’t turned on yet. The speech center, the prefrontal cortex, is turning on at that moment, and there’s a chance that trying to write the dream in a diary might catch something. On the other hand, for every meaningful entry (not even verifiable, but meaningful), I have several in the shape of “concave lens は necessary”.
I also had a useful dream once in the same time frame, and it was a brutal, detailed demonstration of one of my biggest character flaws. Not a classic frightening nightmare, just a thing that made me sit for an hour afterward wondering what the fuck was that.
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I believe it depends on if the magician is communicating accurately or not,
For example im very bad at pendulums, so i can be with the real external entity, and still get the answers wrong.
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Coincidentally, that night was a full moon, so maybe that had an effect
Many describe an encounter with Naamah in this way, myself included
The fullmoon is when Naamah is strongest,
the 4 brides/sisters each has their own phase of the lunar cycle
Lilith and the newmoon is perhaps the most well known, but Naamah has the fullmoon
btw. was it during the summer aswell ? that is her season, and she is the one that is associated with, and is closest to the material realm, so that might be why you experienced it so intense
Could I have imagined it? It’s hard to say. Firstly, I didn’t really believe anything would come of it and what I was expecting. I thought I’d just have some interesting dream. Secondly, I didn’t even know such sensations existed and had never experienced anything like them. And I haven’t experienced anything like them since.
you describe what others have felt as well, but you ultimately decide if it is real
from my experience in working with Naamah and Lilith and Succubi in general, the level of ecstasy and bliss varies from “session to session”
some nights and days you feel it incredible intense and other days you hardly feel anything and miss the feeling
I understand your confusion and perhaps wondering if it is a parasite or just your own mind creating all of this because of your desire, I have had those exact thoughts
In my case I started out believing I had summoned Lilith or one of her Succubi, I had strong sleep paralysis and nightmares over a long period of time, when I started to focus more on Naamah and how everything might be connected, the energy shifted to become blissfull, I have recently started to fully dedicate myself to Naamah and the energy feels amazing and strong right now and I am getting signs of her presence more frequently
ask yourself what your purpose for contacting Naamah truly is or was, do you have a goal ? perhaps unseen at the moment
she is the gateway to many demons and is seen as the most kind and less harsh to work with than Lilith, but do not mistake her kindness for weakness
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Because I have a serious problem with sex addiction… I would summoned her simply because I was sexually aroused and wanted an unusual experience. I didn’t take it seriously at all.
And then I tried to repeat this with other spirits, simply calling them with feigned respect and asking to receive sexual pleasure, as if they were cheap prostitutes. Nothing good came out of it. And in working with spirits, even if I tried to pretend that I wanted some kind of growth and so on, but in reality I always only wanted sexual pleasure from magic and spirits.
When my sexual desire rises, sometimes I simply cannot control it; like someone obsessed, I think only about sex and do anything for pleasure.
After some initial tests, it seems Naamah can (and is willing to) help break out of unhelpful behavioral patterns. This is nowhere near a pleasant process, though. You might have old emotional wounds reopened, suddenly feel angry and resentful about things that happened decades ago, or experience similar effects.
You might try asking her for that if you’re willing to let a Qliphoth-aligned spirit near your emotional baggage.
Take my opinion with a grain of salt,
If you have those stuff, there is a chance this is caused by an entity, that is subtle about itself, and you think you cannot control yourself and you are obsessed about sex, while in fact its the entity influencing you in that way,
what you experiencing many reports it, and after they undergo a 40days where they take protection/spiritual hygiene/ cleansing seriously, they get better, they feel better too and they also get more conscious about the subject, they can clearly see the before after,
The problem with those entities is they are subtle they do not make themselves known,
Even in dreams, they can impersonate people you know, and you may think that its normal dream,
Also whenever the person that has those entities, see something sexual, they get huge urge compared to a normal person, and it becomes uncontrollable. Or out of nowhere they just think a lot about sex.
They do that so the person masturbates or whatever.
The fact you reach out to entities instead, looks like a red flag to me because thats even a more clear link; i do not want to infuse you with doubt in relation to your contact, however, are you sure you are not dealing with an imposter?
And do you take your spiritual hygiene seriously and do protection etc.. you have a routine or you just call on entities directly?
When you had intimate relation with them, it did not feel real ?
I assume just working with one spirit is not enough for the need, and I know the need
I used to watch a lot of porn to satisfy my lust, but usually only briefly, so I can sort of relate to the sensation of the lust taking over, though I didn’t know of ways to summon spirits to help out back then
I found that focusing my energy and orgasm on Naamah has helped, and of course what you do in the real world, whether it being busy at work, working out all the time and so will also change your level of lust, if your too tired to be horny it puts a dampener on it, for a little while
did you ever try to just dedicate the sexual energy to one spirit ? I mean it sounds like you contacted quite a few, but never found one that just hit the spot, though the intention behind it was also shallow, if you don’t mind me saying, but that is normal, many call on Succubi and Incubi for this, no harm in that
btw. is it a specific time of month or season that you feel it the stongest? or does it just come and go, what is the trigger, if any or if you have noticed any, feeling the strong sexual pull doesn’t have to be a bad thing