Viewing Material Manifeststaion using Cymatics as the key

[Mulberry]

I woke up this morning with a vision. A castle of sand formed from the vibrations of the plate it was sitting on. It kept it’s form as long as the vibrations persisted, shifting and reforming slightly, getting a little more fine and more detailed, or a little worse as I looked at it, responding to my thoughts.

In my lucid dream state, I went "Oh!, it’s like cymatics!".

I knew that all along and didn’t even know it.

I kept asking myself questions, and getting more answers, about how manifestations works, comparing with the words of past masters. In then minutes I got a books worth of info, and I stopped knowing I would just forget any more if I don’t start writing it down. Human language is inefficient and lossy, I don’t really like it, but like a dream journal, it’s the best way I have to transcribe this info to my conscious brain storage systems.

[Mulberry]

For those who don’t know about cymatics -

https://www.shift.is/cymatics/

Cymatics | The influence of vibration and sound on human cells

Probably got a lot to do with how and why the Rife frequencies work. That’s something I want to get into.

Combinations of cymatic patterns interfering with each other maps to natural growth patterns:

Sonic Architecture | Cymatics Decoded

[Recluse]

So the implication would be that all physical matter is at the core a form of cymatics and vibrations?

[Mani]

Idea reminds me of string theory. The idea that on the most microcosmic level, the universe is made up of nothing more than vibrating strings

[Mulberry]

Wellll, it’s not just sound is it? It’s at least, also qi (prana).

In a nutshell…

Qi is a combination of sound and EM radiation (heat, light, radio to gamma waves). This is why it works in a vacuum, where sound cannot travel.

So, qi is kind of like the sound, base-plate and air in a cymatics sand demonstration, and the vibrating plate my “castle”, It’s the medium that transfers the vibrations to the “sand”.

The sand is the physical manifestation of energy acting as particles - atoms and molecules (themselves also formed of qi, with thier own cymatic patterns.

And the quality of the vibrations, the frequency? are the thoughts of consciousness, which are information carried in the waves qi (sound).

But here, here’s a huge difference - this was 3-D, so there’s no 2-D plate underneath it exactly - the “plate” IS the space it’s in. They are the same thing. A sand particle deep inside it is just as connected to the vibrations as any other particle.
The “plate” is the tao, aka ether.

Another aspect that should be called out - TIME. This can only exist in spacetime. Outside of spacetime there is only consciousness without any connected linear awareness, memory or understanding of relationship, which all need space and time to make sense of them. Come to think of it, there’s no point having an individualized conscious unit without it.

(I think I’m about to do a 180 on saying that entities exist outside spacetime - outside OUR spacetime on this planet, sure - but not without it all together, as long as they have a stable energy body they have to have time.)

For the universe - many conscious minds, many subconscious minds, everything together, all thinking and overlapping and interacting. The word “symphony” has been used before, by religions and scientists alike and I think I see it’s appropriateness through this lens.

In my vision, I asked what happens if you stop the vibrations - the qi? The sand de-manifests - it doesn’t just fall down, it’s gone, back to the tao, (the ether, back to zero point). It only exists because of the vibrations. And the vibrations only exist, because a conscious mind thinks of them.

[Mulberry]

@Recluse

So the implication would be that all physical matter is at the core a form of cymatics and vibrations?

I think cymatics is a fairly limited demonstration of what forms physical matter. It’s an analogy, but uses the same principles so it’s a good one.

@Mani

on the most microcosmic level, the universe is made up of nothing more than vibrating strings

Pretty much. Everything is energy in patterns. The term “string” is misleading, more like circles. Think flower of life - same concept, really.
But I think it’s the right direction to look in - manifestations as interacting energy waves, resonance and interference patterns, not quanta. Quanta are just a symptom not the cause. The entirely of quantum mechanics deals with properties of the waves interacting and is as illusory as thinking a table top is solid.

[Mulberry]

For a bit of background, that was the answer ( “Oh!, it’s like cymatics!”) but what was the question?

There’s a reason I got this vision, since I asked for it, sort of…

So I woke up early, as I do - I have an alarm for an hour earlier than I want to get up specifically so I can dose and use that time for meditation and trancework, try to get an OBE etc. Sometimes I just end up getting a lie-in.

This morning I wanted to ask my MAP team about them. So I opened a MAP coning, but did not call Pan or my higher self, I just called the MAP team direct, and I said

“Tell me about you. I think you’re ascended masters? What does that mean to you and how do you see reality, so that you can change it? What tools do you use that you have to work with?”

I had kind of assumed they were all qigong practitioners - maybe not.

So the vision of the castle being formed like a 3-D cymatics sand art sculpture, is from them, my MAP team.

[Mulberry]

Who is holding our reality together?

Ok, so before I get to this, there’s another step - see this part… these vibrations that are the thoughts of consciousness manifesting something, like the sand castle… that consciousness, it’s not us in our everyday minds is it?

Because we’re all here trying to get change in a manifestation that seems held by something else.

I am reminded of my conversation wit Kiltan (one of Azazel’s Nether Lords in The Book of Azazel) which I posted about here:

@Mulberry

I’ll share something else that Kiltan told me. One of the reasons that makes the physical desirable in the first place, is it’s semi-permanence.

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Now imagine the astral and even more subtle realms, the realms of the entities - nothing is permanent and everything takes energy (awareness) to exist. If a thing is completely forgotten about by all entities, it effectively despawns. There is no accidentally finding your grandmothers ring in the attic where no one know it was there - it would fade away and be lost, much like fabric turns to dust in the physical. (Again, this is Kiltan’s example and description, it’s hard to describe the images and emotions he gave me around it)

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I have seen fancy crystal buildings that had entities at each corner who’s sole job it was to keep the building existing and functional in it’s complexities. The building was like a tall apartment/skyscraper and lived in by many entities but they weren’t there all the time - and that could mean centuries away for them. Rather than recreate comfort it all the time servitor-like entities held it in place. We have to maintain buildings here too, but not by constant magickal effort.
Such is the benefit of the physical.

UPG disclaimer - this sounds quite mad, and many mages/mystics have these sorts of UPG and they’re all different and crazy-sounding, and that’s why we don’t often glurge them online. But for some reason this felt useful to share.

That was many year ago now… And now I get a separate vision from the MAP team, that if your turn off the conscious will to keep the vibrations going, the manifestations go poof.

@Mulberry

I asked what happens if you stop the vibrations - the qi? The sand de-manifests - it doesn’t just fall down, it’s gone, back to the tao

So back to who is holding our reality together? … given we don’t all consciously focus on maintaining everything all the time? Who holds the grocery store together when the last janitor and security guard locks up and goes home? And who holds my body together given I’m not consciously doing it? I’m not even consciously breathing to keep refueling it.

Do we all have a little imp thinking about our body for us? Maybe. maybe that is what the human animal form does, and that firs with my view that we possess/incarnate into the animal, instead of manifesting it.

But, I need to meditate more on that, as this is now getting into the taoist immortality territory - of how we want to create a body of light/ immortal embryo/ solidify the astral body - all terms from different traditions of the same concept - to be a vehicle for the conscious mind to stay whole without a physical body. And that you can choose then to manifest/de-manifest a physical body when and where you want.

Which circles back to what ascended masters are anyway.

It’s kind of like, a physical animal body managed for you is like training wheels on a bike. If you can get the hang of manifesting your own being for yourself, you don’t need it any more.

[Mulberry]

@Mulberry

If you can get the hang of manifesting your own being for yourself, you don’t need it any more.

By extension, if you can manifest your own body, you can manifest your environment, or at least manifest direct change in our environment a lot easier, maybe manifest objects.

I’m more interested in the immortality and endless youth thing at the moment, and from here went micro again and started asking about physical system damage including DNA damage and reversing that, restoring to a remembered physical state, or a combine image of desired healthful state.

I’m looking for practical applications of this cymatics concept. I am seeing that there’s a bunch of research I didn’t know about re cellular healing and cymatics. But I’m going to meditate on removing all the methyl groups from my methylated DNA first.

According to the change in model, away from particles and into waves, the language to use to shape my thoughts, is that there’s extra patterns interfering negatively with the patterns that form my physical template.
My vibrations have become polluted, over-complicated, and discordant. So I will meditate on that next.

And now I’ve forgotten the rest but I got a good bit down. Let’s see if there’s more.

[Mulberry]

I’m getting this book: Resonant Currents: Unlocking Healing Through Cymatic Frequencies: A Science Inspired Journey Into Sound, Energy, and Vibrational Wellness

I may or may not extend into getting tings like Tibetan singing bowls to experiment with, as I would like to keep this all purely generated by my own system.

I’m more looking to update my language and imagery repository, so that further meditation sessions have something I can relate to something I know, and increase the chance that I can interpret it - also a huge advantage of working with the Ascendeds who have been human before, I feel - they “speak” in human symbols and concepts.

[Recluse]

@Mulberry

This morning I wanted to ask my MAP team about them. So I opened a MAP coning, but did not call Pan or my higher self, I just called the MAP team direct

Ah right, the Medical assistance Program. I didn’t know about it until you mentioned it lol, it will certainly be the next book I shall read then, seems like there’s a lot of interesting stuff in it.

@Mulberry

So the vision of the castle being formed like a 3-D cymatics sand art sculpture, is from them, my MAP team.

So essentially since you asked what tools they use that they have to work with/how do they see reality, it means they’re able to influence vibrations to maintain or build reality derived from a process similar to cymatics? At least that’s how I interpret it, maybe i’m wrong.

@Mulberry

I have seen fancy crystal buildings that had entities at each corner who’s sole job it was to keep the building existing and functional in it’s complexities.

Funnily enough, I did an automatic writing session with a long-lost civilization, a bit of UPG but, it was in a period where I made a ‘deal’ with civilizations of the past to lend me their strength in exchange of immortalizing them in my automatic writing book, proportionally to how much I did that or not. They gave me an amulet in an intuitive image, I described it as follows in my journal:

“I saw in my mind a medal/amulet with blue stones, like the sort of amulet in an oval shape, gold, with motives, and blue stones round/oval, four of them i think to the sides in a X type of arrangement though there is no middle link [that connects them together], maybe a central one I don’t quite remember. It was brief. But I felt when I saw it, that it was connected to the past/a civilization etc.”

But more importantly, though they couldn’t communicate in my intuitive thought with latin-derived (i.e english or else) words unlike other spirits i’ve worked with before, I essentially did an image-showing showcase to them, and that image corresponds to a positive (yes) or negative (no) and they picked that image to a question of mine given in image as well. There were about 35 questions I asked.

I could talk more about it if you’re (or others are) interested, but, specifically they did say they used crystals of energy, they used Base 32 mathematics but no Geometry (and I reiterated that question several times to be sure, always said they didn’t) for some reason, that was kind of baffling to me and hard to understand.

I just find the crystal parallel very interesting, they are a recurring phenomenon in past civilizations lore.

Perhaps today’s pyramids do the same function since they’re essentially the only untouched artifacts of past civilizations using mathematic formulas they were not supposed to know at the time? And that all of them are still functional and undamaged, aligned with constellations and possible ley lines? Of course it’s a theory and I have no proof of it.

@Mulberry

Do we all have a little imp thinking about our body for us?

Interesting idea.

And thanks for sharing your thoughts! It’s very interesting and gives even more pointers of rabbit holes to dig into.

[Mulberry]

@Recluse

So essentially since you asked what tools they use that they have to work with/how do they see reality, it means they’re able to influence vibrations to maintain or build reality derived from a process similar to cymatics? At least that’s how I interpret it, maybe i’m wrong.

Yes, exactly. I skipped that connection didn’t I? It seems like they use thier own system to do something that we approach with our tools today in qiging therapy, the rife machine, sound healing baths, now cymatic frequencies, and sound applications including ultrasound. Some kind of holistic understanding of the underlying principles I think.

@Recluse

I could talk more about it if you’re (or others are) interested, but, specifically they did say they used crystals of energy, they used Base 32 mathematics but no Geometry

Sounds interesting! Would love to hear more. They say the Sumerians used base 60, which is still why we have 60 seconds in a minute and 360 degrees in a circle. It does divide cleanly by several numbers, better than 10 does, but divides by 10 too so it works for us. But what if that was actually base 6 (maybe.. for having 6 fingers on each hand?) so 32 might have resonated for that civilization the way 6 and 60 resonated with the Sumerians. I could see base 32 messing with your maths a bit so geometry just gets too hard to bother with.

@Recluse

Perhaps today’s pyramids do the same function since they’re essentially the only untouched artifacts of past civilizations using mathematic formulas they were not supposed to know at the time?

Yes, they can be used for cymatics - one guy studied their cymatics because they healed him and he wanted to know how. (I only know that cos I just finished listening to the video I posted I’m no kind of expert I need to learn more about it. ) There’s a thought that cathedrals were healing centers as well.

[Recluse]

@Mulberry

It seems like they use thier own system to do something that we approach with our tools today in qiging therapy, the rife machine, sound healing baths, now cymatic frequencies, and sound applications including ultrasound. Some kind of holistic understanding of the underlying principles I think.

Ah I see! It makes sense to be honest. A lot of knowledge was lost as well during the Flood and similar catastrophes, it would make sense we’re barely rediscovering things that for them was a natural holistic understanding of these principles.

@Mulberry

Yes, they can be used for cymatics - one guy studied their cymatics because they healed him and he wanted to know how. (I only know that cos I just finished listening to the video I posted I’m no kind of expert I need to learn more about it. ) There’s a thought that cathedrals were healing centers as well.

Interesting, I think he did mention it briefly in the video as well indeed about cathedrals corresponding to precise cymatics. I know that many cathedrals were built using sacred geometry by its builders (masons) in the past, possibly aware of that fact then?

Very interesting though. I myself went in a few cathedrals and there always was this strange intuitive feeling that I could not find anywhere else, it’s hard to describe with words though I only went there a few times in my life before becoming LHP, since I was sola scriptura (rejecting the church and keeping only the bible as authority).

I find the idea of them being healing centers plausible. Not necessarily through its connection with ‘god’ (though it may play a part with the overall energy/egregore surrounding churches) but through the way it is build and the mathematics surrounding it, possibly. Sacred geometry which perhaps may be tied to cymatics?

@Mulberry

I could see base 32 messing with your maths a bit so geometry just gets too hard to bother with.

Indeed, that seemed very strange to me as well, I have little knowledge with base myself and the answer about the base number and geometry kind of confused me on the moment.

@Mulberry

@Recluse

I could talk more about it if you’re (or others are) interested, but, specifically they did say they used crystals of energy, they used Base 32 mathematics but no Geometry

Sounds interesting! Would love to hear more.

Very well then! To avoid derailing the thread i’ll make a post in my journal-ish thread since most of it doesn’t contain elements of the ‘cymatics’ nature.

[Mani]

@Mulberry

There’s a thought that cathedrals were healing centers as well.

Cathedrals absolutely are healing centres speaking as a former JCI person myself I always found cathedrals and mass services to be healing and rejuvenating to the spirit compared to the energy of protestant churches and pentecostal churches which feel more parasitic in my experience.

[Recluse]

@Recluse

Very well then! To avoid derailing the thread i’ll make a post in my journal-ish thread since most of it doesn’t contain elements of the ‘cymatics’ nature.

Recluse's ramblings, thoughts, experiences - #31 by Recluse

^ Posted it!

[Mulberry]

I’ve been thinking about a book in my Pile of Shame that is about magickally updating your DNA that I think I want to bring out and use alongside this work, as I think it would synergize quite well. It’s a first edition of Zakael - The Startgate of Kryst 2019 by Vermilion that I found at online Occult bookstore Miskatonic books and bought on a hunch.

I racked it open and in light of this new perspective it’s making more sense already.

p34: “DNA is the physical reality which is created by thought. The thought at the base-frequency creates an electromagnetic pulse, which then structures the DNA at an energetic level within the etheric body by forming atomic structures. In time this will be shown to be true, and scientists are only now starting to find clues to this truth.”

p48 "The etheric [qi] body holds the encodings for the physical DNA strand, and with the use of the violet light and transmuting the lower aspects of the original encodings, new information at a soul level is then accessed, in a way, overlaying and reprogramming the DNA into a higher mental and energetic evolution.

I will record here as a baseline my ages, as a measure of the success of this effort is that, in a year, I should de-age, not be a year older.
Chronological age: 53
DNA Age (by methylation) 47
Biological Age (by bloodwork) 38
I get bloodwork done twice a year to check markers.

The dude from the video above talking about radial harmonic patterns in DNA mapped with cymatics (at 19:26):

[Recluse]

This is fascinating. The DNA explanation also makes it very easy to understand how it would be possible, in theory, to modify it in such a manner.

If magic can be used to change eye colors due to DNA changes (I believe E.A did right? His eyes appeared darker when he gave the evocation seminary in a class room, and now face camera they look green and much brighter), no doubt it can also be used to extend lifespan or perhaps even rejuvenate? I admit though what is brilliant in your approach is that you are checked medically to see the changes.

Definitely keep us posted on what changes for you or lack thereof.

[PJ04]

But how do you translate cymatics into magical practice?

[Mulberry]

Intention. Cymatics is a metaphor for the mechanism of how applying your attention and intention actually works.

This is what I as trying to get at in post 5.

@Mulberry

And the quality of the vibrations, the frequency? are the thoughts of consciousness, which are information carried in the waves qi (sound).

Or in qigong, “energy follows mind”.

As I like always say INTENTION IS EVERYTHING.

[KralHor]

At the very beginning of the post, my mind said, “One tone is the cymatic, so a castle is a song.” Later, you brought in time, and it made even more sense.

I have been getting bombarded with messages to return to music (guitar), so I have. (It’s been more than 2 decades since I stopped.) When I practice, they go down. If I stop for a day or two, they ramp up again. This OP helps me to understand the deeper meaning of what I’m doing. Thank you.