[quote=“Sultitan_Itan, post:8, topic:2362”]Well, some spirits like Paimon will always go the extra mile and supply their own energy. Paimon will pretty much always give you a huge return on your investment really quickly, and he prides and promotes himself on that guarantee. He also tries different variables until he finds the one that looks best.
Most spirits won’t provide that much service up front. First of ,all it has to do with the basics of “How it works” - the intentional call/response of sending out energy and getting it back in a converted form. Secondly, you’re dealing with spirits that are not just workers but part of an initiatory system, so your interactions with them are going to be a tacit education on how magic, evocation, etc, work. Command and permission are a big deal. You (usually) have to command them to supply their own energy, use their own judgment, pull out all the stops, etc. That’s ceding a portion of your authority to them.
If you call them up and complain (be careful) they WILL supply their own energy (and how). In fact, simply muttering about how “Maybe so-and-so just wasn’t the right guy for the job, I guess I’ll go ask a different spirit…” can be enough to trigger an “Oh, yeah?!” response. The limitation is probably either on your end or an intelligent display of concern for what you can handle.
And anytime a spirit tells you they “will” do something, but you didn’t command them to do it, the unspoken qualifier is “if you command me to.” Respect for permission, command, etc, is what really distinguishes Goetics - they never lose sight of that initiatory orientation.[/quote]
Great post! Thank you.
