Theta Gamma sync

Hey all,

I’m pretty sure that I’ve posted a topic on this in the earliest days of the chat room, but I’ve since become much less active and sort of missed any advice that my question spurred.

Essentially, I am having the hardest time consistantly getting into the theta gama sync. Now, I’ve had plenty of occassions in which I’ll fall into a light sleep after an unsuccessful meditation, and wake up in the correct mindstate to actually hear a multitude of voices, communications–even from specific entities themselves saying some pretty powerful stuff to me, which I don’t think could have come from my everyday waking imagination at all–so I know I’m capable of getting into these states. But I can’t take conscious control, enter at will, and begin reaping of the benefits of one on one conversations with spirits. Any suggestions from those who have mastered these states?

I should also point out that this might not be the best thread to ask this question, and that administrators are free to move this anywhere they feel is more appropriate.

Try fasting and then do the sync

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Well, how do you usually meditate Nick? Do you lay or sit? Focus on breath or mind? Usually what helps for me to ensure that I don’t fall asleep is sitting in a chair. As I feel myself drifting off into sleep, I keep refreshing my mind to make things crisper, as the atmosphere becomes blurry. Each time I refresh, the trance is deeper. Also just imagining seeing out of an eyeball in the middle of my brain as I do this. And just being receptive to the eye. Hope this helps.

Thanks for the advice. It turns out that I’m currently a bit sick, and so was thinking about a short fast–maybe just a juice fast–within the next few days anyway.

hi all.

today, i found a piece of music on itunes called Gammadrone. there’s a 7-minute sample which is pretty good, although the piece itself is only about a half an hour.

i ended up buying it, but just listening to the sample put me into a pretty decent altered state. i’m not familiar enough with how the different states feel to be able to say if i was actually in gamma or how deep, but even without meditation/visualisation, i was quite impressed with the effect.

after about three minutes listening with my eyes closed and some rhythmic breathing, i felt very much as though i had been meditating deeply for over an hour (that’s how long it usually takes me to get deep enough for ritual work).

anyway, the sample is free (obviously) and is great on its own.

kind regards, james.

I listened to the gammadrone and i like iiiiiiiit!!! im downloading it as we speak!!!

Woah, try scrying into the corner of a room while listening to this.

Gammadrone (Gamma Binaural Beats Meditation)

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this gammadrone is intense. its the best binaural beat i have heard. took me deep in. i lost awareness of my body.

This binaural beat is amazing. Whether it is a placebo or not, it definitely got me into a trance state.

Seeker
Hell yeah, I’ve been using gammadrone for some time - it’s a great tool!

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It might be useful to have a home EEG/ECG to know objectively what brainwave states you’re in. The first result I got was this company:

[url=http://www.neurosky.com/Products/MindWaveMobile.aspx]http://www.neurosky.com/Products/MindWaveMobile.aspx[/url]

Dunno how good their tool is, but if you were going for a specific brainwave state, something like this could help you fine-tune. :slight_smile:

An open-source project to build your own:
[url=http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/index.html]http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/index.html[/url]

[quote=“redcircle, post:12, topic:544”]It might be useful to have a home EEG/ECG to know objectively what brainwave states you’re in. The first result I got was this company:

[url=http://www.neurosky.com/Products/MindWaveMobile.aspx]http://www.neurosky.com/Products/MindWaveMobile.aspx[/url]

Dunno how good their tool is, but if you were going for a specific brainwave state, something like this could help you fine-tune. :slight_smile:

An open-source project to build your own:
[url=http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/index.html]http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/index.html[/url][/quote]

wow - that’s much cheaper than many of the others I’ve looked at. I wonder what the difference in quality is.

[quote=“DK The Mage, post:13, topic:544”][quote=“redcircle, post:12, topic:544”]It might be useful to have a home EEG/ECG to know objectively what brainwave states you’re in. The first result I got was this company:

[url=http://www.neurosky.com/Products/MindWaveMobile.aspx]http://www.neurosky.com/Products/MindWaveMobile.aspx[/url]

Dunno how good their tool is, but if you were going for a specific brainwave state, something like this could help you fine-tune. :slight_smile:

An open-source project to build your own:
[url=http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/index.html]http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/index.html[/url][/quote]

wow - that’s much cheaper than many of the others I’ve looked at. I wonder what the difference in quality is.[/quote]

I knew you would have thought of this already, DK. :wink:

if only i had this as a kid…

Star Wars The Force Trainer Mind Toy

haha - oh hell yeah! :smiley:

One of the “symptoms” i experience in the theta gamma state is absolute numbing of the body. it just feels like you are an “essence” in a shell you cannot feel. my spirit is telling me that when this happens it is our bodies version of “omnipresence”. since we are a microcosm in ourselves. we simiulate a mini omnipresence. also it feels like speeding in one direction but you are in one spot.

heya willow.

i’m sure you have more than one way of reaching this state. what have you found to be the fastest way to get that deep?

i’ve been playing around with a few methods, and i now inhale deeply, clear my mind as forcefully as possible (much like charging a sigil), and exhale as i imagine the sensation of descending in an elevator. about half way through exhalation, i imagine the “elevator” becomes freefall and i just release the visualisation when i’m out of breath. it doesn’t get me very deep, but it only takes about five seconds, and if i keep my mind clear for a half-minute or so i find i’m just deep enough to receive intuitive impressions, scry and receive messages (i.e, from spirit sigil charging etc).

i used to use the light breathing exercise outlined in WoD, but it took too long and my mind became restless, undoing all my work. after the elevator visualisation, i’ve found light breathing/charging deepens and maintains the trance state.

kind regards, james.

I just bought that song, it helped a bit more than others sounds i had, maybe because the 36mins lenght i had more time to concentrate, but it was faster than before.
I guess its all about pratice, even EA Koetting said something similar in the divination program videos about you needing to give some tries at getting into theta-gamma state, and then you would be able to get into that very fast once you learn.
Im still getting the same stuff, 1-5 dots of static rain for like 3-5 seconds and some weakness on legs and some sense of “floating” and that elevator thing.

[quote=“tiberius_james, post:18, topic:544”]heya willow.

i’m sure you have more than one way of reaching this state. what have you found to be the fastest way to get that deep?

i’ve been playing around with a few methods, and i now inhale deeply, clear my mind as forcefully as possible (much like charging a sigil), and exhale as i imagine the sensation of descending in an elevator. about half way through exhalation, i imagine the “elevator” becomes freefall and i just release the visualisation when i’m out of breath. it doesn’t get me very deep, but it only takes about five seconds, and if i keep my mind clear for a half-minute or so i find i’m just deep enough to receive intuitive impressions, scry and receive messages (i.e, from spirit sigil charging etc).

i used to use the light breathing exercise outlined in WoD, but it took too long and my mind became restless, undoing all my work. after the elevator visualisation, i’ve found light breathing/charging deepens and maintains the trance state.

kind regards, james.[/quote]

Well one way that i have reached so far is to inhale slow and exhale slower than you inhaled. . every time its a different experience for me sometimes more successful than others. a way that i keep my mind clear is by focusing on my breathing. doing the aum in my head keeps my thought voice busy so without realizing i can zone out for some time, sometimes…lol