Some of you are really good at your magick. And you’re going to be approached by those who need your help.
I put a post up here last week that seems to have gathered a bit of attention. I gues you could say it’s the eternal artist/consumer misunderstanding.
An inbox message i sent to Jay a few weeks ago. If you’re getting good at your magicks on this board and want to start doing work for others, you may find something of use in this post, so i’m putting it up here fwiw.
[quote=“the magician”]…which btw brings me to the topic of doing work for others.
I’d like to ask you to speak to your godparents and muerto about charging for work you do. I want to send people your way and i want you to be fairly compensated.
My suggestion is to price your work properly. Here’s a way i came up with that works pretty well:
First, you ask yourself how much you value your skill per year. It can be any figure you feel confident with.
Then divide that by a full-time worker’s annual billable hours. Full-time workers work 2080 hours per year. So the formula can be something like
<how much you’re worth per year> / 2080 = Your ritual rate per hour.
For divination with your muerto, use a typical hour’s rate instead of a work rate. Divinations are usually less than ritual work.
There are roughly 8766 hours per year, so a formula for divination can be
<how much you’re worth per year> / 8766 = Your hourly divination rate.
So for example. Gary Vaynerchuk said the 1% earn an average of $400,000/year. If you value your magick at that amount, you could charge:
$400,000/2080 = $192.30/hour for work with your muerto, and
$400,000/8766 = $45.63/hour for divinations.
The divinations could be broken down further into 15 minute, 30 minute, 60 minute, and 90 minute work, so
$11.41 (15 minute divs)
$22.82 (30 minute divs)
$45.63 (60 minute divs)
$68.46 (90 minute divs)
To make it easier, you may want to do what many marketers do and round that rate to the nearest 7 or 9, so instead of $68.46 for a 90 minute divination, you charge $67 or $69 for the sake of clarity.
That is one way you can find acceptable rates for ritual and divinatory work.
I’m thinking when you get your warriors you’re worth $1 million a year, and adjust your fees from there:
$480.76 for every hour for ritual work
$28.51 (15 minute divs)
$57.02 (30 minute divs)
$114.04 (60 minute divs)
$171.06 (90 minute divs)
Those rates might seem high at first, but take a look at Erik’s consultation and ritual rates. Nate, Asenath, and Ben are more affordable but they’re not working for peanuts either. Off the site, Brother Moloch starts at $1000 to do ritual work in Haitian Vodun, and he does not tolerate foolery. As a Santero/Palero, you have every right to charge the same rates. You can easily get the same results as any of the above workers if not better than them. You know what you can do with Palo!
Other than that you barter and make those who don’t have the money find something they can give you that you need or want. Maybe they live in a region of the world where they can gather herbs, magickal woods, stones, or other spell implements you need and send them to you through the post, or have things made for you and mailed to you by handiworkers etc. If someone is serious they can always find something they need and find a way to give to you.
There is always a way to find fair compensation. Don’t do work for free unless you want to test shit out on random people to see if you can make things happen sight unseen. I do that all the time and i get some pretty cool results, but it is draining to put out and not receive anything in return, and frankly, i am getting tired of it.[/quote]
Also, for those of you who can’t afford it…
…you’re MAGICIANS! You can put your situation INTO the magick YOURSELF.
Here’s how, from another post i put up on here a couple of years ago:
[quote=“the fool, post:19, topic:2393”]no you’re not. i can tell by the way you are talking. you are going to try to do everything and accomplish nothing. your mind is too scattered. i know exactly what you are doing because i’ve done the same thing and i’m telling you, it won’t happen for you. you gotta try something different if you want to get out of the jam you’re in.
i have said it before and i’m going to say it again. to do magick, you need to follow five steps:
: fix your mindset
: set one intent/goal
: perform a greater magick ritual
: trigger the manifestation with lesser magick/real world action
: review your progress to stay on track.
i asked you to contact ea about opening the EQAMO sigil using his method from mastering evocation. i get the feeling that you don’t have the program so i’m going to give you another method for opening the EQAMO sigil, using fire skrying.
i did a quick search on google and found this method 10 minutes ago. here’s how you do it. light a candle, put the EQAMO sigil in front of the candle or underneath it, and then stare at the flame while reciting the square’s mantra: SEQOR EQAMO QASAQ OMAQE ROQES over and over again. keep doing that until you gain an insight into understanding your problem. you will feel tired and begin to nod off. that is a sign that you are going into magickal trance. don’t fall asleep. it’s important that you stay awake and aware because that magickal trance is the way for you to make changes in your life. at the point when you feel like you are going to black out, as soon as your mind goes blank, PUSH THROUGH THE BLANKNESS and demand that the spirits of the seal manifest around you and give you a sign that they are there. then pay attention to any changes around you in tempeature, any sounds you hear, any sights you see, or whatever. when you see hear or feel anything they are there. then you tell them you want money and to bring it to you. simple as that. do not banish the spirits or your quarters. you want them around and working on your behalf constantly. if you have to release any of these spirits, wait until you have the money you want to release them later on.
after that, every day just like i said before. when you are getting ready to go outside, look at the EQAMO sigil and visualize $20s lying around outside and affirm to yourself that you are going to find them. write down that you are going to find $20 bills everywhere you go. then when you are outside, instead of worrying about being broke, look for $20s. when you find one quietly walk over to it and pick it up. don’t make a big deal out of it. don’t look at the damn thing, just pick it up and put it in your pocket and then walk away.
do that for 21 days. there’s your money, there’s your magick.
if you have to, repeat the entire greater magick rite every night. muster up the faith to believe that you really can conjure to find $20 bills lying around all over your city or town.
keep in mind that in magick ANYTHING is possible, you just have to find the way to make it happen. that is magickal belief.[/quote]
One of the former members of this board did this exact ritual and a year later told me that he found over $6000 in 10 months worth of $20s lying around. He said he even found $20s lying on the ground when he MOVED TO THE WOODS AWAY FROM HUMAN HABITATION.
Magick works if you work it. You just have to believe. In magick, belief doesn’t mean you trust it. Belief means you DO IT.
Food for thought.