The law of Karma

I dislike the word Karma, don’t even know why we changed Dharma into that.

Karmic Debts are a funny topic. According to Dharma a bad person NOT acting on their true nature and being good will receive Karmic Debt.

There is no Karmic Law, there is the Law of Attraction however but this isn’t the same as Karma. There is no unseen, omipresent entity who dishes out punishment for “bad deeds”.

It is a pendulum. It will always move to both sides but if you push it too far one way it is garanted to come back with the same amount of force.

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It seems western occultist believe more in the law of attraction rather than the law of karma.

The whole theory of your thoughts create Reality doesn’t resonate with me Eg because if I hypnotise someone to fully convince themselves that they have an extra arm they don’t grow one out of the blue. It seems thoughts create only a perception of reality. But to each his own

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Oh it’s all perception I agree but I don’t get why you feel Western Society believes in the Laws of Attraction? The average person in that region sees it as Kalifornia Karma where you are always followed by that invisible force that will hit your hands with a ruler for thinking bad things.

More Occultists, I’ve noticed, believe in the Law of Attraction but I wouldn’t say that means Western Society.

Edit: Western Occultists are kindof a mixed bag though. Some are adamant about Karma some are not.

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I wrote " western occultists". I don’t think eastern occultist would believe in the law of attraction.

I was under the impression that is where it came from?
Hermetics and all.

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Karma as most people understand it is theosophical bullshit. They created this idea that karma was some kind of tit-for-tat cosmic justice. Theosophy is little more than Christianity in eastern drag. Unfortunately a great deal of western occultism is infected by their ideas.

I’ve already gone into this here

And here

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Whew… You did what i was too lazy to do. The whole perception of law of karma in the west is not completely right. Thanks for the explanation man

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Read some actual hermetic texts and you’ll see that this isn’t actually the case. The Emerald Tablet and The Kybalion would be good starting places.

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Thank you.

Hahahaha! Kalifornia karma. I’m totally stealing that.

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:rofl:
Found this spreading all over FB, not sure the origins but too damn funny.

My UPG is as follows: There is no karma in the traditional Western misconception of it, in that if I do something “evil” there is no higher power that will automatically punish me for it.

However:

If you feel guilty over an action that you’re performing, this guilt may manifest either subconsciously or as a thought form. In other words, if you don’t truly believe you’re in the right, or if part of you feels badly for what you’ve done, you may end up inadvertently punishing yourself.

But most importantly: people generally don’t like assholes. If you’re consistently a dick to other people, odds are that eventually you’ll see some backlash to your actions. Nothing mystical or supernatural about it; just that people tend to be more likely to do nice things for you if you’re good to them, and more likely to fuck you over if you fuck them over on a regular basis. :slightly_smiling_face:

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I’ve put some of my views on the subject here

When people have needed to be removed one way or a other was i concerned with “karma” no i was concerned with the roadblock in my path and busted out the dynamite. Sometimes this has meant banishing people, more rare means cursing to remove them.

Been better off as a result. Learned some, grew some and now i have alot fewer headaches to deal with.

I see Karma as a good tool for cursing and hexing; so many believe in the stereotype just a few well placed conversations can cause self cursing. :wink:

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So, if I kill people just like hitler but I didn’t feel any guilt then there will be no karma for me?

No. Its not about intention, it’s more about action. Of I kill you in this life i will be killed by you in one of my next life. The only way to not be affected by karma is to not self identify with the action

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What do you mean by that?

Hmm… Everytime you feel you yourself are the doer of the action it creates a karma as you get attached to the fruits of it. Don’t self identify with the action, believe yourself as an instrument of God, believe whatever you do, good or bad, is being done by God through you. You won’t incur the karma then. Never get attached to the fruits of the actions that you do

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I see.

But people here says karma is bullshit. They said it depends on whether you believe or not. If you don’t believe in karma, then it won’t happen to you at all, and vice versa.

What is your opinion on this?

If i ignore gravity, it does not mean that gravity won’t affect me. It will do so irrespective of what I believe. Universal laws cannot be broken, but they can be bended. People who don’t believe in reincarnation usually don’t believe in karma.

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