[quote=“WiseManEcho, post:1, topic:6039”]this is something i asked Azazel about in my lessons from him.
1: the BEST, BEST, way to learn magic is from your parent of the same sex. father to son or mother to daughter.
2: the next best way to learn magic is directly from the spirits.
3: a not so great way to learn magic is from magical orders.
4: and the WORST, the absolute WORST way to learn magic is from an anthropological or archaeological stand point.
Azazel went into detail on this. trying to decipher the ultimate secrets off the temple walls or studying the books of those who have tried is an exercise in futility. the truest mysteries will NEVER be found in a popular book on magic, no matter who wrote it. you are much better off trying to summon(evoke) the spirits of that culture and learn the spells from them.[/quote]
Like some of the others of me,I see this more of a loose guide to how to learn rather than a set of rules set in stone.
First off,I’ve contacted Azazel.I’ve asked him about my future,and my future family.He was SUPER VAGUE because obviously,he didn’t wanna give away much information.The only thing I really learned from this all is that my first child(note,he didn’t say firstborn,could very well be adopted),is going to be a girl.
The odds of me having a child with a muggle,are not very far off.In fact,they outweigh the chance of me meeting a witch.With that in mind,I may end up getting her into magick(or not).But she’d still be a beginner compared to one such as me(again,speaking hypothetically here)
So I know that I’m going to have a lot of knowledge and experience to offer.I also know,that children start out with a belief of solipsism.They are gods,in the flesh,and their supernatural powers and faculties only get dulled as they grow older.Thus,I consider early magical education to be very important.
So why would I relinquish full control over my daughter’s occult studies to my spouse,who I don’t know anything about in the present,simply because someone else’s experience with a demon I highly trust told him she would make a better teacher?
I also don’t know how many kids I’ll have.She may be the only child I have.
That being said,I know that many books are useless.I also know many people who believe this,and refuse to use books,claiming knowledge from the spirits themselves is the only path to knowledge.
But I,for one,and this is just my opinion,believe that there is no such thing as a 100% useless resource.That armchair theory text from a medieval churchly demonologist,that makes absolutely no sense?It still inspires the idea that demons are very real.Despite all the other crap in there,that fact is amplified in the mind of the ambitious black magician through the macabre imagery within.Imagery he will later on learn is very false.
And that armchair theory is just one example.Sure,many books are written from armchair theory,but many books are written from subjective synthesis.And the knowledge inside them comes from magickal parents,spirits and occult societies.
Think about that,all your other good resources have poured knowledge into those books.
Now the reason books are useless sometimes,is because not everything fits your system.
That’s why you’re the one tailoring your system to your needs instead of blindly following tomes to the letter.
The Goetia was written in the 17th century by a man(or woman) who was raised under a form of religious fanaticism that most of us haven’t been in.Sure,some of us were taught under it,some of us may even be amish people who simply strayed away,but if you’re practicing the occult,you’re gonna feel an empathy with the spirits,that’s so strong you’re gonna feel sorry for torturing them and bossing them around,something you wouldn’t feel if you had the idea that they’re the incarnation of evil drilled into your head.
Spirits are excellent teachers,that you should trust and learn from.Hands down,one of the best ways.However,few can learn to summon spirits without one of the other sources.
Orders are where many occult authors started.Even EA had the OAA.Crowley had the Silver Star.LaVey had the Church of Satan.Sure,they all founded them,but the knowledge is nonetheless,the order’s teachings.
Orders,however,have elitism,and form strong boundaries rather than vague boundaries in the level of the magician.To this day,I have no idea whether I’m an initiate,or a neophyte,or a master.And that’s one thing that’s pushing me through.