it may be that water operates on the same elemental type of energy as dark energy in the universe, which also flows like water does on earth, but unlike water, expands.
also, dark matter transforms and that transformation is seen in the operations of dark energy. water transforms from ice to water to steam as it speeds up, and back again as it slows. the same way heat operates on water, dark energy operates on dark matter.
he could be providing a link in the elemental world between speace phenomena and earthly.
the demon started his work and the rusults were suddenly good and visible! The target even said to me: âseems to me that my mind is controlled. I think things that arenât my thoughtsâ. Her words not mine. I was very happy to listen to that.
Then I committed some errors on the mundane plane risking to sabotage the operation, but fortunately I fixed the situation and now things are very well arranged.
So as estabilished I called Satanachia again and here the interesting thing which Iâd like to listen opinions about.
The last time I evoked Satanachia I versed blood and semen on his sigil as an offering and I conserved it. Now you understand, a piece of paper with exsciccated blood and semen canât be conserved for long time! So I told the demon: Iâll burn this sigil as an offering to you, do yuo like this?"
His answer: âNo. You havenât to destroy it with fire but with waterâ.
I rembered that he asked a glass of water as an offering too (and by the way I didnât give to him). So I asked: âwhy do you want it being destroyed with water? and why do you like water?â; He said: "water is very important because is pure. the things of your world arenât pure and the things of my world arenât pure too. Water dilutes and fluidifies. This is very important."
So I dismessed him saying thank you and I didnât go ahead asking things for my benefit before destroying the sigil with water as he desires.
Now what I think is that he meant that blood and semen arenât pure on their physical form (my world) neither in their energetic form (his world), then the water is needed for diluiting and purifying this energy. But at the same time I think this is a very simplistic idea and the things could be much more deep.
What do you think about? Any spirit said similar things?[/quote]
I would follow along the fools reasoning⌠The logic seems to be correct. As an example, although Belial may have many correspondences through various belief systems, in the end it is up to you to chose what intuitively works. I am working with him through the earth element(which feels natural for me)
The idea of how to offer the sigil elementary is a nice thought(never occurred to me)⌠a belial sigil would be buried in earth as an offering⌠Made me think this morning and I am completely brain dead atmâŚ
Hereâs a good lesson in why you should always read back over your own transcripts from channelling and evocation sessions. You never actually remember exactly what was said, especially when you think you do. Note the deviation between what he ACTUALLY said and what I remembered later. When I found this the other night, I didnât remember any of itâŚ
I am first among spirits of dominations â not so much rulership â Belial â Azazel â that implies governance, politics, planning, architecture.
Subjugation is an ugly word, distorts my meaning. Domination â implying dominion â ownership by right.
Yes. You own these shades that dance around you â it is your right â your natural place to tell them what to do â command them, make them do as you will and order.
They are phantoms, yes, your will commands them, you are wrong to think them independent â they exist in your reality only for you â you are the one who renders them â you only â should put them in their place â it is your place to rule â it does not matter if some object â they are your material servants. That is their role in your lifeline. They are serving you â live and serve at your pleasure, and you hold absolute sway. Absolute power â to command their every move and direction.
I donât initiate. We serve you in our capacity as teachers. Our knowledge is your knowledge â definitely â our power is your power.
Make you invincible â make you a star. The center of your universe. Instead of being in the sidelines like youâre programmed. I will place you on your throne at the center.
It is not wise to let people do as they will in your reality. That is the â nadir â as you call it â I was trying to show you in your dream. Point of transformation where everything â everyone (bows?) to you.
Learn to expect it - accept it â and you will have it.
Iâd say this is very much in line with what Crowley practiced. He didnât just release occult methods in plain language to the general herd so they could tinker and do whatever they wanted with it. He created a complex, highly obfuscated system to shape and indoctrinate people in the direction he thought society needed to go.
Even though he did that, he was serving his gods. He never tried to put himself as a master of the universe to do things as a self-deified black mage does.
Crowleyâs system is Right-Hand oriented, even though a darker version of the RHP.
Well Crowley came from an idea that everything was a permutation of the subconscious mind. So while he was serving gods, his underlying approach was based on things being permutations of the subconscious mind. So it would still, in theory, be the standardized ideal of LHP. However, actions speak louder than words, so only Crowley knows if his intent remained cognizant of that theory when he was doing what he did.
I dont see how the permutations per se standartize for LHP as they simply imply alchemy, change. To be LHP, those permutations have to be oriented to self-deification and breaking apart with the collective unconsciouss, while he clearly sought after communion with his gods, through the nullification of his own Self.
Thatâs what he asked me to do with the first sigil of his I ever made, shortly after we âmetâ in a dream - I had a headstart to some extent because working with the elements is heavily featured in core shamanism and I did a lot of training in that, I posted my method for disposing of offerings in case itâs any interest here.
Iâm going to risk being a pain in the butt to cross-reference what you were talking about in Kobyâs thread about money, and the New Thought stuff, because at its core, once you boil it down to the basic principle and remove the operational-level stuff about having a pleasing personality or staying positive, that holds that the individual observer is at the centre of his/her universe, and that everything that happens in your life is a manifestation of some inner quality of yourself.
Thatâs why some people shrink back in disgust at the suggestions inherent in the LoA that everything in your life has been manifested, consciously AND subconsciously, by you - because it looks and sounds to an awful lot of people like blame-the-victim, when whatâs being discussed is, for example, child abuse or some kind of atrocity.
Regardless, the core principle of âobserver as universe-creatorâ ties in with both what Azazel was saying in the evocation EA described, which I linked and typed out here just now, and whatâs really cool is that the experience you begin to get with practicing yogic principles, to the point of samadhi and then into total Merger with Source, you actually do experience this, but thatâs into UPG and anyway I kinda covered my own experiences with it so far in 2 other threads.
But suffice to say that the New Thought/LoA teachings, and the Kybalion (which more or less birthed them), Vedic teachings on yoga as in Union with Source, Azazelâs words channelled through EA, AND your received wisdom there are all saying the same things. As was my earlier UPG and direct experience, long before I ever met any of you guys or had even heard of EA and so on.
I try not to leap to conclusions, but I mean, fuck, what are the chances of something so entirely counter-intuitive being a random happenstance?!
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I am new here and I do not know if it is ok to work with him in my Topic as it is two Things realy I got on Mind currently: 1.) to get the Love of my Life to be my Partner and that he seperates from his current Girlfriend he had for a Long time and said he and her can not be seperated. 2.) to bring Revenge to a Guy who lives in the neigbouring City and he has only used me.