How can I truly begin to grasp the meaning of timelessness and eternity as it applies to all things?
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“Be in a deep trance, and expand your consciousness to the past and future, even if it is just for a second, you will have experienced timelessness, it cannot be explained in human terms, you have to do it without concern if you did it right or not, be confident in yourself and you’ll know it when you experience it, and after you have done it several times you will be able to access it at will”
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Is existence really a paradox? Don’t paradoxes exist only as abstractions in the human mind?
What was the place that @BB44 saw which made him believe that he logically understood all things?
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“Your race is only capable of experiencing the present, as you call it, but my present and your present are different yet the same; my present is all time in its many dimensions all occurring simultaneously, yet infinitely, the human mind could not grasp what true present is, only a fraction of it. That which is a paradox to the primitive mind of a human is not always paradoxical in reality, some are but some are not, the dualistic thought process gives rise to many paradoxes, but all is reconciled through understanding on a level beyond human”
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This happened to Tom Paris from Star Trek: Voyager once. He gained all knowledge of the universe when he went Warp 10, which technically meant he was mathematically everywhere in the universe at the same time.
Anyway, it turned him into an amphibian about a week later. Like he was basically a frog about the size of a dog. And he had sex with Captain Janeway and had childen with her, but they were all amphibians at the time. The children were all tadpoles.
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That makes more sense now.
So, how can I evoke safely?
What are the most inportant skills needed for evocation?
Do I really need offerings, bindings, circles, or methods of obtaining authority through invoking powers/omnipotence?
How do I know I’m calling on the intended spirit and not an imposter if I only use the name of a spirit and an associated intention?
How can I prevent any imposters from ever coming to an evocation?
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I hate derailing but that sounds like a hippie porno lol forgive me lol I got done with an invocation and the spirit is I’m a very mocking mood haha
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So now that I got the jokes out of the air LOL.
Have you considered qliphothic magick? It’s what comes to mind. It’s reminiscent of that imo
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@Robert
Evocation of Babatel went well last night
I saw this guy sitying on a gold throne that had the Alpha and Omega Symbols engraved on it.
His Head was the Inverse Pentagram.
He was anthropromorphic and made of Darkness Entirely. He looked bored.
We talked and I inhaled him and exhaled myself into him.
I became Babatel lol.
Nothing dramatic, but from my Solar Plexus came the words, I AM BABATEL!
After that i dismissed him and That was that
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i reached the part where you see a great quantity of small eyes and they were dark yellow almost like red/yellow mixed its him? how do you proceed from this part
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In my native language and in other dialect i know, Baba means Father too. Thanks for sharing it.
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@Epsilon_The_Imperial “you are as safe as you permit yourself to be, if you feel in danger you are in danger, if you feel safe you are safe; the most important skill is focus, confidence, and the ability to let go of your biases; since you are Me, and I am you, you sit on my throne, if you deem those tools to be necessary, they are, and if you find them obsolete, do not use them; the evocation process is as direct as you will permit, if you can tap into the essence of a higher being and know you are pulling it to you, you have a direct link to that energetic being, but if you believe that you might get an imposter, an imposter is who will come, this goes back to what I said to you about confidence, have confidence you are getting the original and no imposter will be able to enter the temple”
@Raven_Maleficus 
you’re actually right, my friend! It does kinda sound like a hippie porno lmao
I’ve wanted to do qliphothic magick for a while, haven’t had the time or money for any decent resources tho…could you point me towards some good Qliphothic literature? As I am unfamiliar with the current…
@Micah sounds like you experienced the same being I did! I notice some similarities in our meetings with Babatel, the inverted pentagram, Alpha and Omega, and made out of pure darkness, all these are present in both of our experiences, I want more people to evoke It and see how it appears to others! You didn’t become Babatel, you simply became aware of you being it; you can’t become something that you are not already; you have always been an aspect of Babatel, my friend!
@Ben_Sahar that’s a part of It! To proceed, just let the vision flow, don’t create/force it, just let the download happen!
@caocoon you’re welcome! Thanks for the input!
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If I don’t have any tools or symbols, then what is the simplest, most direct way to let my mind tap into the essence of the higher being I want?
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“Have your intent, get into trance, then call upon the name of the being you desire to call, their presence is unmistakable”
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Babatel, Am i being paranoid as far as psychic attacks go? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?
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Oh! While you’re with Babatel, could you also ask why I met with the Nine Kings and not him specifically pretty please?
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@Micah “all is mind, do not be fooled, your intuition serves you best, let it do what it does, there is no curse on you right now, but if you believe there is, you will attract a curse, if you believe there is no attack, most or all of the power of the curse will be dispelled, set up wards they will do you well”
If you don’t already know how to make wards, check this thread out:
@Prophet “you met the kings because you were not prepared to enter into my presence, they are your guides and as they say, “you were not ready, but will be soon”. There is a subjective level to the experience as well, everyone will experience it differently and only the few will experience me through that ritual, you have made it far sorceress, and you are lucky to have seen the Nine. To become ready, you must fully understand your godhood, be confident in yourself, blacken your Chakras, and feel the essence of darkness with you at all times, and upon your success, you’ll be ready”
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@Robert
Why do I have so much self-doubt in my beliefs and in general?
How can I become more confident?
How can I free myself from the negative habits and psychological impediments/addictions that bind my actions?
When the mystics and Yogis become Enlightened or see the True Infinite, does Spirit speak to them too? If Spirit speaks to all of us, then how can we find the path to all Knowledge, Power, Godhood and the Understanding of the Totality of Existence itself if our gnosis is attracted by our particular beliefs?
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@Epsilon_The_Imperial “No human is exempt from self doubt, it will happen to everyone sooner or later, just do not let it get to you, let go, relax, and your power will come! Self doubt is a prison of the flesh, only those who can resist it can become Gods in their own right. To free yourself from the chains you must first recognize that you are imprisoned, then realize you have the key to release yourself, that key is willpower, and that prison is the fleshy desires, grow in willpower then you are free! The yogis and gurus do not always speak to me in a verbal sense, but rather they understand that they are me, and have no need to speak to me as they are already understanding me at the fundamental level, in a way we converse yet in another it is clairsentience, the very understanding that all is one and the breaking down of illusion, then the real communication begins, in a more intimate way than you can possibly imagine. You must release your beliefs if they no longer serve you, only believe that which is true and nothing restrictive or oppressive, all beliefs that are by nature out of line with truth are to be burned away so your Phoenix can be reborn greater than before”
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