Okay, in the other forum I pay a visit there are some guys who claim to be incarnated goetic spirits, more precisely Sitri and Baal.
I actually never got myself much bothered with that, I actually liked the idea, thinking of them as some sort of incarnated AVATARS of those spirits. Something like Izabael DaJinn.
Well, it happens I did a thread thanking Buné for his help and dickery has started. The Sitri guy thinks that:
1 - He is Sitri himself.
2 - Noone can evoke him, for he is incarnated.
3 - Spirits cant be summoned at the same time by different people, they actually send either their lesser demons or (I lol’d hard with this one) ENERGY CLONES of themselves, Naruto lol.
4 - If you do drugs in a working you do bad and that discredits everything.
5 - Goetic Spirits cant stay by your side as familiars for some time. The most they can do is to leave one of their subordinates as familiar, but only if you’re either satanist/luciferianist or work with demons (this one I really didnt get, if Im working with Goetia Im working with demons right?)
I wasnt supposed to be bothered by that though, if he sees things that way and it works for him, what the hell do I have to do with that? But he had to poke me…
My view on evocation of spirits, being goetic, angelic or whatever:
1 - You evoke Archetypes of these spirits, and actualize them through the astral plane down to our mundane reality.
2 - There may be deceased persons in the astral plane that would assume the godhead of these Archetypes and act like them, but they are of a lesser nature considering their purity. I actually saw this with Candomblé spirits, they are persons either deceased or from other planets and stars that assume the godhead of the spirit they want to represent for the Candomblé work.
What are your thoughts on this guys? Cause either these folks are watching too much Naruto or Im actually a dumbass.