What would happen if a practitioner uses the Pentagram of Solomon as a lamen to summon an angel, where he/she draw the angel’s sigil on the reverse side? Would that work?
Angels normally do not need the special protections that are needed with demons. Demons can attack the summoner, angels on the other hand do not. So, I doubt including it will affect the summoning of the angel at all.
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This is a subjective statement, and if you do a search of the forum you will find that angels not only will attack, but have at times been known to literally parasitically harass individuals. I tried to quote all the instances in a reply once, and could not due to character limits- I found something like 96 examples. Not just one or two, quite a few- mostly from experienced practitioners who have demonstrated their abilities to us, at some time or another.
Yes, I can’t see any reason it wouldn’t, even though I haven’t used it personally for this. I base my answer on what I am reading/have read about the pentagram of Solomon:
The Seal of Solomon is the signet ring of King Solomon and is depicted as either a pentagram or hexagram. It’s believed that the ring allowed Solomon to command demons, genies, and spirits, as well as the power to speak to and possibly control animals.
Seal of Solomon – Symbolism, Meaning and Importance - Symbol Sage
The words and spirits show up in just about every description I can find, so I would assume this encompasses many other types of spirits such as shades of the dead, but I can’t see why angels would be totally excluded unless its because of the spirits that empower the symbol itself being conflicting. I know some of the pentacles call upon specific spirits, but I don’t know if they all do or it’s just some of them or any major details off hand.
Now then, that being said I’ve used one of the Pentacles of Solomon for summoning a human spirit that was uncooperative. That is not necessarily the given application as it said it would bring any person to you, and I very specifically wanted the spirit of someone, their higher self etc rather than some other entity. Thusly I think there’s lots of room for modern adaptation and understanding regarding the use of these.
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@Clouis Do you mean this by Crowley…?
And a lamen as in:
I think as long as you’re very clear that this represents your power as a mage, and is not doing any work for you, there’s no reason not to use this to summon any spirit. You can call the spirits of the Grimorium Verum wearing this, some of which are also angels, so I don’t see why that wouldn’t work for angels not in the Grimorium Verum as well.
At that point, you have made it into a talisman, a magickal object you have created. The word “Tetragrammaton” appears not to actually mean anything, or the meaning is forgotten, so you have to consecrate it to make it magickal.
I agree… many demons ARE angels and some are gods, and yes angels can attack.
However, this post is in the context of the rather dogmatic Solomonic tradition, per Crowley, so the answer is appropriate for that particular JCI based worldview.
Under this view, though, a protective lamen shouldn’t even be necessary if angels are being called, only if you’re calling someone, including angels, not on the celeb A list in a their cultish fictional “war”.
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Not really, the older grimoires are fairly clear on that matter. Now it is a different matter with modern ones with unproven histories that are normally written to make a quick buck. But those have little to no value. The older have withstood the test of time. It is doubtful any modern ones will.
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