Yea, and I find it interesting that he uses no sigils or pathworking. Just words of power. I haven’t tried a ritual yet, but I’m interested to see what happens when I do…
I’ve only used Demons of Deception once. The objective occurred, but it was a complex situation with a lot of moving parts, so I will likely never know whether the outcome was due to that work or would have happened anyway.
As for Practical Jinn Magick, I just went through my log - I’ve executed the ritual a total of 52 times over the years.
In most cases, the targets have been such that i had no way of knowing what was happening with their lives, other than the positions they hold. So I can’t speak to effectiveness in those instances.
I saw little in the way of results in instances where the targets were still accessible to me.
There has been a fair bit of discussion of it on this website. It seems some people have done very well with it.
This does seem to be the crux of the human condition.
Im finding it interesting too. But time will tell in terms of results.
He states that he usually expects to see movement within three days, but acknowledges that it can take much longer.
Three days as a normal expectation seems very fast to me, at least in my own experience.
In have executed several rituals from this book now. I guess I’ll form a view on whether the method works well for me in due course.
I just did my first ritual from Demons of Curse Magick 2 days ago on a work colleague. I did the Career Collapse ritual on her. The weird thing is, before doing the ritual, I hadn’t seen in 4 months, as she now works some of the time in a different office. But the weird thing is, the day after doing the ritual, I saw her briefly in the kitchen at work. Coincidence? Or a sign that the Demons heard and are working on my request? It was very weird…
I dont know. I guess time will tell.
I did career collapse a week ago. No signs as yet, but its early days and I really have no expectations of timing. As per my original plan, I did the nightmares ritual for the same target. I was intending the eviction curse a week from now, but im not so sure now, the descriptions seemed entirely geared towards evicting someone from a dwelling, rather than a workplace. I feel it were functional for non dwelling settings, that would have been suggested by the author.
Have you tried Force Exile from Angels of Wrath? Or the ritual with. Camalon: “To compel a person to leave their home, workplace, or any other position,”
from Lucifer & the Hidden Demons? Both of those work very well to get rid of people from the workplace. Done both myself a few times.
You could also just go ahead and try the Eviction curse from DOCM, just to see what happens. It might work.
Yep.
I used Force Exile from Angels and Wrath in conjunction with the removing someone ritual from Magickal Attack on all four of the peeps that needed removing.
Two gone fast. Third conditions that led to later removal started fast but took a while to play out.
The resistant target was unaffected.
I have tried Camalon several times, and repeated the Force Exile and ritual from Magickal attack several times.
I’ve also hit her with a range of other things.
She seems virtually immune to anything. Only thing I got a result of any kind with was the Feel Remorse ritual from one of Hargrove’s other books. At least I think it was a result. She suddenly became quite contrite and timid and ceased her machinations for a few weeks.
I dont know why, but some people just seem very hard to impact
Yea, I know what you mean. Ive had simular issue with others who seem immune to whatever I throw at them magically. And I’m sure they weren’t occultists who knew how to protect themselves.
Have you tried the Astral Bomb ritual from NAP? I have the modified super strong version that somebody posted on a forum a while back (think it was Brother Butterball). That is very strong. I tried that on a strong work colleague - the lunatic one I mentioned, and I heard later she had to leave her apartment because of a load of issues with the landlady and the price went up and she could no longer afford it. I got rid of her from my office too.
Or a Jinn ritual? I read that normal methods pf protection don’t work with them, as they are an entirely different class of spirits than angels or Demons, etc. Might work on a strong target if nothing else does. I had some good results from Corwin’s Jinn book.
I havent tried the NAP one. Ill have to look into that.
I’ve tried the Jinn rituals a number of times. I really havent had much success with them as far as I can tell, and none on this target.
Okay so I just bought the book on Kindle and will give it a read through.
Edit to add: I’ve found the first ritual to try on my target. It’s almost perfect.
Cool. Which ritual? Did you try it yet?
It’s the Career Collapse spell. Haven’t done it yet.
Ok. I did it a few days ago. Waiting to see what effect it will have! My target really deserves it as she’a narcissistic bully, a fraud and a liar, who lies about her career qualifications to get jobs. And doesn’t care who she steps on to get her own way.
Performed my first ritual this evening. I did Jason Miller’s 9 Breaths Purification and some light meditation for the 10 minute “settling” period Cosgrove recommends beforehand.
After bringing my target to mind and dwelling on the frustration and anger that came up, I practically growled the Words of Power. I had some anxiety before the ritual and found my legs shaking (it felt right to stand for the ritual instead of sitting like I usually do).
Hargrove recommends waiting a few days between spells but I’m itching to pull the trigger on this mofo again
Anyone have results to report from this book yet?
I hear ya, I did my usual thing and got carried away. Looking at my records I did nine over ten days. Theres only two of them that are cases where im likely to be able to tell if they worked or not. others theres a fairly slim chance I would find out either way
sometimes it take lots of time to start working. I did Master Curse almost two years ago on one guy and heard that RECENTLY he started having troubles (but very heavy troubles, he may lose all his money, flat, job and child - his wife just started going crazy ) so I think we will wait for the results.
But sometimes it can work immediately (if somebody is sensitive to energies)
Not yet. Apart from weirdly seeing the target the day after doing the curse, after 4 months of not seeing her. I’m sure it was a sign the Demons heard. I’ve only performed one ritual from the book so far. I’m going to do another on the same target today.
Do it!
Great job! I found this also. I heavily cursed a toxic work colleague, and although she started having small issues right away, it took around 3/4 years for some mega ones to hit really hard. Mainly health. But Force Exile drove her away from my vicinity almost immediately in only a few weeks.
Then she popped up years later and had to repeat. It worked in around 3 weeks. But she’s still having health issues. And also massively gained weight. I saw the difference because I didn’t see her for nearly 3 years. She was double the size when I did. I have no regrets because she is a thoroughly nasty piece of work. And even after what she suffered, she didn’t change her behaviour in any way or realise how she treats others is wrong.
So it confirmed that I was right to curse her. She still shows no remorse. And it’s why, even now, I’m continuing to, as there are other aspects of her life that still haven’t collapsed yet.
This little b**ch needs to learn that other people don’t exist to be used or stepped on by her when she doesn’t get her own way, and that the world doesn’t revolve around her toxic, lying, backside. She’s built her entire career (which is hardly anything really), on lies.