I’ve honestly never found that, once I persisted enough to make contact, I found most spirits very loving, or at least, co-operative.
Edit to add: they WANT to help us, for various reasons, but they actually are usually looking for a way to do that, so this is the serious major reason I don’t go round using force, it’s totally unnecessary! And I dunno, something about it makes me think it inidcates the magicians doesn’t, deep down, feel entitled to what he or she wants, and that rings alarm bells for me…
But remember they don’t owe you anything, at least not right now - it’s like, if someone joined this forum and said “Okay I’m also a major hacker and everyone here has to tell me all their secret magick tips AND send me $20 each by wire, or I’ll have your forum closed down” - would THAT person get any help or sympthy?
Yet if someone joins and gets on well, posts interesting stuff, asks questions, gives helpful advice, etc., they’re going to find people sharing little tips and stuff, and if they later set up doing readings or whatever, people would contact them and PAY them for their work.
I have always basically treated spirits like people, with respect and politeness, and they’ve been very good to me - VERY good.
If you’re going into this mixing systems and without a clear working model of what you’re even dealing with, then it’s not surprising your results are muddled.
There’s a very true saying “The man who chases two rabbits will catch neither” and you’re basically doing that here, pursuing different, even opposing, methods and worldviews.
As for egregores, MANY spirits use them as go-betweens, for a start, secondly the line between what’s an egregore and what’s “real” is totally blurred anyway - even with humans - and thirdly, again, some people will insist certain spirits are egregores just because THEY didn’t get a result, it’s just pettiness and jealousy.
Why not give a one-month trial of treating spirits like they’re real, living beings with emotions and desires of their own, call them without using force or godnames, just under your own innate authority but WITHOUT throwing that round either, and see how that goes?
But I think mixing methods and then allowing your mind to have this underlying doubt, that’s a surefire recipe for more failure and frustration, as time passes.