Hello! Please help me. Which powerful demon would ensure a fast divorce and completely sever the bond between us — Andras or Asmodeus? I want to make a pact. I urgently need help. When I called upon Andras, the candle flickered intensely for two days, but in the following days, nothing happened. How can I reach the gods? Maybe King Asmodeus would definitely ensure the divorce. Asmodeus or Andras? Which one can help me? Please share your experiences because I really need this pact. Why can’t I hear the demons?
Note: I’ve actually been browsing this forum for about 3 years, but I just became a member. 
I will also share a post to introduce myself, so please don’t issue any warnings. I don’t want this topic to get off track. Thank you for your understanding.
I’m sorry, but I can’t overlook the rules on this one. It’s now been over 40 minutes and we still haven’t seen your introduction post. 
Since you’ve been browsing BALG for 3 years, you’re likely already familiar with the requirement to post an introduction in the proper section before asking questions, as well as how to use the search function and the general expectations around magical practice (results take time and consistency, there’s no quick fix).
If you’re unsure about any of this or need help finding the Introduction thread (or our forum rules), just let us know and we’ll happily provide the direct links.
Welcome to the forum.
Belial. Asmoday 2nd choice but he has to like you, and you have no relationship with him yet.
Not advised. It’s a terrible newbie mistake to go for advanced magick like pactmaking out the gate. You don’t need a pact, you can’t sense if it is agreed to or what terms t hey want. You need to develop a relationship, talk about it, plan it and then do a pact. You don’t even know if the entity you’re calling is the real one or a parasite.
Andras is not a good fit for this. He is chaos, and not beginner-friendly. Because of his chaotic side, you should not call him for work done around you - call him for projects far away. He can burn down buildings but you don’t what that to be your house while you’re in it. Also he doesn’t really care, but he can try to kill you for calling him.
Already done - you have been reading the forum for 3 years? There’s 14 years of advice here I think you’ve missed a lot of it, based on what you said, and that you would know about Belial. You probably noticed we don’t do work for you but will help with advice where we can.
Another very common question that if you’d been reading for 3 years you’d know. You have not developed your astral sense, for which we have many tutorials for free, and many books and internet resources exist to help. You could have been working in your astral senses for 3 years and been able to sense them by now.
We treat everyone the same way here. Given you still haven’t done your intro yet, I will hand you the kink anyway. 
The first thing to get under your belt are your protections: like spiritual hygiene, then you want to get into developing your astral senses and avoiding impostors and parasites… When you can be sure you’ll not get attacked by parasites, then try Unofficial Tutorials: First Contact from Sigils to Evocation Collection.
It’s a bad idea to call entities until you know how to verify identity and banish parasites.
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Ah, you’re right. I shared the text where I introduced myself, you can read it from there. Thank you for your responses. Belial has been on my mind for a long time, but I didn’t know he could help with this matter. I’ve done some reading and research about Asmodeus and Andras, but I don’t know much about Belial—I only know that he is very powerful. Can Belial both cause two people to divorce and make two people fall in love with each other? I’m sorry for my lack of knowledge; I will check the forum again. But this is an important matter for me, and I would be very grateful if you could share your knowledge.
You’re right, I think I acted a bit impulsively. But there is a really important issue in my life, and I need your help. I want a very powerful demon to help me. Asmodeus? Belial? For matters of divorce and love. Of course, my intention is not only to use these powerful demons for help, but also to build a deep connection with the powerful demon king who grants me this help and miracle. Because I feel love and a strong interest toward them.
By the way, here is the link where I introduced myself: Introduce Yourself To Members Of The Forum 2.0 - #7345 by roses3434
I literally just did. ^^ It will take you some time to read it, that’s ok and normal.
My strongest advice for you right now, is to stop evoking and learn how to mainatin your spirtual hygiene. For the same reason I just told this guy:
If Belial were in the room right now, he would say that you reek of desperation and that you’re carrying that feeling into your working. That is only ever going to skew your results and reinforce the status quo.
Here’s a tip to adjust your head space. Sit down. Relax. Close your eyes and ask yourself how you would feel if you were an all powerful god. Once that feeling comes just sit with it and experience it. That’s the headspace to be in if you’re going to approach demons.
As for getting what you want it’s a similar process. Imagine what it would feel like to already have what it is that you want. This is important. If it feels bad, you’re blocked. You’ll never attain what you want until you deal with whatever issue is causing the bad feeling.
If it feels good, then you’re on more solid ground. Hold onto that as you make your request to the demon
This is absolutely true! Thank you so much for your comment. Even though you don’t know me at all, you were able to read my soul. I truly feel like desperation is pouring out of me right now. Thank you for making me realize that I need to change this mindset. I agree with what you said, and I will try to apply it. I had left a question to the universe: “Is there a god who can help me?” Maybe these answers are actually King Belial reaching out to me. I hope King Belial will help me. Thanks!
Allow me to be the strict one around here, for your own well being:
You’ve been here for three years, reading everyone else’s experiences and advice on developing clairs, yet you admit you’ve mostly just read and haven’t applied much to yourself. The forum is full of practical methods. Meditations, exercises, energy work, and beginner techniques for opening clairs that countless members have shared and successfully used. If you had actually worked on those instead of passive reading, you might not be asking “why can’t I hear the demons?” right now.
You say you want to make a pact with a demon king, yet you have almost no practical spell experience and your clairs aren’t developed. How exactly do you expect to negotiate the terms of a pact when you can’t reliably hear or see the entity you’re dealing with? How will you confirm the pact was accepted, or even that you’re speaking to the real demon and not an impostor or parasite? Without clear communication, you’re walking into serious risk with zero ability to protect yourself or verify anything.
Your spiritual path shows rapid shifts. From Muslim upbringing to deist, to Christian, to fallen angels, to reaching out to a Satanist, to working with a Muslim practitioner, and now jumping between demon kings. Even if communication were clear, what exactly could you realistically offer in such a pact right now?
Pacts are serious exchanges built on mutual value, commitment, and respect. Serious entities, especially demon kings, they expect something of substance in return. Consistent devotion, reliable service, sustained energy, long term loyalty, or offerings that demonstrate real dedication (time, focused ritual work, personal development aligned with their current etc.)
When your spiritual path changes direction every few months or years, and you openly admit inconsistency even in your core beliefs, there’s very little stable “currency” you can put on the table. A pact requires the ability to uphold your end over time. Without consistency, any promise you make risks becoming empty and these entities notice that immediately. It’s not about judgment. It’s about practicality. They have no incentive to invest serious power in someone whose energy and commitment shift like the wind.
Drop the pact idea for now and any heavy demonic work. Focus on actually applying the advice and techniques that have been shared here for years. Develop your clairs through consistent practice, build strong protections, and create some stability in your own path before you attempt heavy demonic work. Only then will you have any realistic foundation to negotiate, verify, or offer anything meaningful. Rushing into this from scattered energy and desperation will only create more problems that you probably won’t be able to solve by yourself.
@Potnia makes some good observations. With your energy and focus scattered as it is you won’t be able to pull off a successful working of any sort.
If you want to work with demons, make a firm decision to do that and stick with it at least long enough that you start getting results.
i never heard it quite put like that thats a wonderful explanation put into terms like that !
Yes that’s true, I understand what you’re saying. However, I’ve joined here because I’ve firmly decided to stay committed and continue on this path with demons. I’ve already been trying to communicate with Andras for months. I’m determined about the Ars Goetia. I just need to learn how to hear demons and how to distinguish real communication from interference. Thank you all very much for your responses
you will get the hang of feeling out what is what with practice. definitly work on those clairs… get good at those, have fun with it.. essentially you dont want to go into an evocation of any kind blind. really get good at meditation and when you start getting activity “all seeing” clairvoyance and the others… practice practice practice those. and explore them… alot of people on this planet will never even get to experience such things. if ya ever wanna pm me feel free. dont underestimate the power of clairvoyance etc… great advices from all above
Thank you very much! Yes, I need clairvoyance and practice. I would also like to talk with you privately when I’m available. Thank you!!
The reason I asked a Muslim practitioner for help is not because I want to be Muslim. I definitely reject Islam. The only reason I reached out to that person was because I didn’t have anyone around me who could teach me magic. I just wanted to clarify that as well.
I know how it can be to want to jump to advanced things. I used to be like that when i first started. this is just my opinion but learn to sit still. learn how to hold a point consciousness state. learn and practice how to get into a theta gamma sync. If you want to learn magick i can suggest to you EA’s video courses are quite great… but I would say to start with the divination course. you will need a great deal of experience in these things before evocation (in my opinion) but he does have a video course on this as well. his books are great too. there is a ton of free info on here like the links posted above. another book i would reccomend is the practical psychic self defense handbook by robert bruce. i read this maybe ten years ago and have built off it ever since and its been probably the most important book i ever read. as for the pm i am always here! but sometimes i take long breaks so if i dont reply quickly that is why
Please let everyone who reads this share their experiences with me. And please, when you read what I wrote, don’t see me as “pathetic” or “weak.” It’s impossible for me to fully explain the pain I’ve been through here. But I’m at my limit now. I can’t describe this overwhelming pain, how the pain in my heart has started affecting me physically too, the nights I spend crying for hours, punching the carpets in agony, struggling to even breathe, and so much more… At such a young age, the man I fell in love with turned out to be married. Please don’t judge me! I didn’t know he was married. But over time, we fell deeply in love with each other. And now we’ve been in a relationship for 3 years. He had already cheated on his wife in the past too. And that woman constantly has spells and magic done on him to keep him tied to her, she keeps feeding him things connected to magic. I even sought help from several witches before to make them divorce, but they failed. And the two of them are still together. Tell me, is there no powerful being, no god, no mighty spirit that can help me? Maybe some of you know from my previous posts — I tried working with Marquis Andras. And believe me, I’m not afraid of him at all! People always say beginners should never work with Andras. But Andras feels special to me because he never treated me badly. I can’t lie — his chaos did affect my life in the past. But honestly, that chaos also caused many hidden truths to come to light. So even if everyone calls him dangerous, I still love Andras. I even feel some kind of connection and loyalty toward him. Before, I recited Andras’s enn along with his sigil. I lit candles and incense. And in return for his help, I promised I would share his power and his help with others. Do you believe me? That very day, my wish came true!!! Maybe it was because the timing aligned astrologically. Maybe my energy reached him at that moment. I don’t know the reason, but what I do know is this: Andras heard me that day!! He granted my wish, and those two separated in complete chaos. But it only lasted for one week… After a week, they got back together again. Why did it happen like this? I can’t endure this injustice, this unfairness, this pain anymore. Maybe that woman has been keeping him under spells for years. Honestly, that possibility is very high because I know her. But I want to make a pact with a powerful being that can truly solve this situation. Please don’t judge me or tell me to give up. I will not give up. I will neither give up on my love, nor give up until justice is served. I hope you can understand my pain and what I’ve been through. And please don’t mention separation jars or simple rituals — I already know about those, and I don’t want something temporary. I need a demon powerful enough to leave not even the smallest bond between them, powerful enough to burn everything down with chaos. Maybe Andras… maybe someone else? I’m not afraid at all. Demons, just like humans, can be good or bad. I feel there is a being out there waiting for me, one that will understand me. That’s why I’m not completely hopeless, even though I’m broken from pain. I’m waiting for your help. Maybe there’s even someone who can perform magic for me or communicate with a spirit on my behalf. Thank you in advance.
I think this thread is exactly the same as your previous one, here:
Thank you. But why didn’t it work? What is the reason? I know Andras heard me, but why did the effect only last for one week? I want it to be permanent, forever… If Andras did it once, can’t he do it more? How will I understand what he wants from me in return? I don’t want to think of it as a negotiation because I love Andras. But he will definitely expect something in return.
I don’t judge you at all. I am no stranger to falling for someone that spells trouble and drama myself, but with those experiences in mind. I still have to say that, objectively viewing your situation, my first reaction would still be to cut the guy loose. The situation seems to be wreaking havoc on your wellbeing. No single human person is worth that kind of suffering. Consider leaving the situation and healing yourself and eventually you’ll come into your full power again. When you regain your balance and confidence, you’ll see that you will attract people that actually deserve your affection and build you up instead of break you down.This drains you and my wild guess is that if you would actually win this tug-of-war. The guy might end up plunging you right into more suffering and drama regardless. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that his wife seems to use everything in her book to keep him in line.
That being said… If you want the desired result I think you might need a little more than candles, the enn and intention. It’s a nice initial attack, but it needs a follow through If you want a longterm outcome. More extensive spellwork and a more layered approach, would be my recommendation. Especially if the spous also has a hold on your man. You’ve seen a pretty good result, but the simpler workings like that are usually timebound and temporary in my experience.
You can try a similar thing and see if it works again. Then use the chaos and seperation to do some more extensive work. Work on the spous to keep her busy and away from him. Consider not only cursing her, but also some things that work in her favor (as long as it keeps her distracted) Maybe even combined with a love spell or two to attach her to someone else that might be a good fit for her. Souring spells to drive your man even further away from the spous, more spellwork to bind him to you etc.