More ancient than the demons

Are there more ancient (and perhaps more powerful) entities of the Demons? In short, I am doing research that suggests the existence of forces older than demons. The only information I have for now is that they are probably related to water, to the worship of water and the earth. I live on an island in the Mediterranean sea, Sardegna, where there is a large presence of prehistoric monuments, from the Bronze Age or perhaps earlier. Sacred wells, megaliths, so-called “giants” tombs for their imposing structures (various legends refer to the actual presence of gigantic beings in ancient times), menhirs, dolmens etc. and these supposed entities would seem to be linked to these structures, a channeler refers to the symbols found in this culture, almost unknown, but which are present in many other parts of the world. I put some photos to make you understand what structures it is, but my main question is whether it is possible that there are entities older than the demons, or they are always them, but not the usual and known.

A sacre well.

The channeled symbol, a vortex (?)

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The Demons are the ancient Gods and forces. All of them. How much more ancient…?

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I agree with you, Silent. But this boy with whom I discuss is certain of these alleged ancients, even if he can not tell me anything else. I try to explain it, but nothing. In any case, I was intrigued by the connection with my land, I’m sure there is something related to those places.

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The first Gods were actually the spirits and what they represent. The elements. That’s what the first humans saw around them. Each element and force was represented with symbols.
All ancient Gods were “demonised” later, much later, when Christianity came to exist and spread. And the word Demon had a completely different meaning than it has now after Christians.
The spiral I see in your pictures, is Indeed an ancient symbol. Its the vital force, the way life is created. It’s everywhere around us. The wind, the galaxies, our own DNA etc.

It’s hard to explain anything to someone with ears shut, I understand how you feel. But If you really wish to explain to your friend, then you need to understand first. That’s why I push people to study more. Be open to opinions but always, always do your own research so you can create your own personal opinion.

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I can assist here. The ancients who lived on Sardinia now live subterranean. The giants. They have contact with the gods you all know of.
They worship the feminine creator force. The water goddess is a huge part of their pantheon of names. I envy that you have access to the ruins there. But should you wish to learn more about them, you can do so via telepathy, but be warned, they’re not very human-friendly. Not small humans. They’re human, just a sub species. Like the difference between a Rottweiler and Pomeranian…them being the former.
There are other older creators who created creators…it goes on and on. Different sides of universes, it’s too complex to write out…it’s something you have to see to understand.

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Well, for ages people believed in the titans, that were older that de gods(demons)…
I don’t know, but one day something came to me: “the gods were created by ancients being named only The Creators. The Creators were “born” in a very similiar way that the scientists believes our world were. Kind of by evolution. But it was necessary something to balance, so from the Creators was “born” The Destroyers”
This never was confirmed to me, but I very often caught myself thinking about the universe, it’s that big as people say ? If so, is more than possible that in “the other side” of the universe there’s others kinds of being, older than us(humans, demoms/gods, angels). But is just my thoughts. :slight_smile:

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That’s quite accurate, actually.
The Creator being I know of, I simply call her Mother. She is like what you might envision dark matter/energy. Her created beings in turn also become creators…and anything capable of creation is capable of the opposite.

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yes akashic beings,i came to learn about them with satan last night
and satan is a akashic being

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You all wrote wonderful things. @Anassa, you’re right. This guy, he has a very negative experience with these forces (if they are, he is convinced that these are and I can not make him think), among other things has a fearful attitude mixed with pride that certainly does not help him . I was interested in everything that concerns my land. Regarding what he says @anon50363245, my personal experience is positive, almost familiar. Since I was a child I have always been in nature, a difficult childhood made me imagine that the trees and the stones were my family, that the wood was my home. I have never been afraid, I feel, in the ruins, in the wells and in the towers, an immense force, and I feel safe, loved. I realize that it is my experience, even though I have never investigated any further because it is as if I already knew it, inside of me, and that is why I am sorry that this boy is fighting a battle he can not win. The Giants, the Titans. I do not know. In my culture there are many figures, horned demons that inhabit the woods, elemental spirits that Christianity has disfigured with various identities. I feel them neighbors, familiar, I respect them and I love them even if I have never interacted with them, I have only heard them, I feel them and they let it be so. I have difficulty with your language to express the real feeling I feel for this land. I simply never asked myself what they really were, I did not care, but now if I can maybe it’s time to get closer. I do not believe in the case, anything has a motive and a purpose. Later I would like to post some photos of some place, it would be wonderful if you could perceive something. Thank you all for now and who will want to intervene.

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You realize the sacred well is a big vagina, right? :blush:

There are lots of well myths - like Odin. Maybe do some comparative mythology (like Joseph Campbell) for inspiration.

Btw, my family is from that area (Sicily) - though they were gypsies. I don’t know much about them other than that.

Good luck

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Tiamat

Angels and demons are far older than Abrahamic religions.

Hell, most known pantheons are older than the Abrahamic religions.

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@Wake2sleep, sure, a mega vagina.
I just put the aerial photo to highlight and remember the cult of fertility, of birth. Among other things, it is assumed that in this culture they practiced ritual incubation, but this and another story. To be balanced I also insert a giant, spectacular penis.

I certainly do not attribute any primacy to the Abrahamic catalogs, if not …If not to have defaced the previous cults)

Regarding Tiamat, there are various historical evidences linking the Nuragic civilization to the Sumerians, hypothesizing that a part of the people, following a natural catastrophe, emigrated and settled in Sardinia. I had written a long post but I lost it. Thank you for the interesting intellectual and spiritual ideas.

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Short answer: yes.

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If you mean more ancient than the Goetia or Gatekeepers people on here rave over, yeah there’s stuff that’s way way older than them. They’re just ‘human demons’ after all! So they’re limited. :slight_smile:

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Hello! I am collecting all possible information. As said, I will soon go to one of these places to look for a contact, if possible. Regarding what you write, you can tell me more, something to read maybe, in the meantime, thanks!

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The universe has been around a long time. But we live in the part of that we live in. We’re sort of fine-tuned for the spirits that have evolved to where we are. Not sure echoes of the past are all that fruitful.

As already mentioned, I personally have only had positive, welcoming perceptions. My instinct is the only thing I have, for now, and that’s okay. Safe and ignorant is not really a condition that I like, however. It is something that concerns my land, with which I feel a visceral bond, whatever it is I would like to discover it, clearly, whether it is something useful or not, powerful or weak, it does not matter.Btw I appreciate all your advice, really.

If you want something that predates fucking everything, try to get in touch with a manifest aspect of the drakaina (the Greek moniker for the nameless, faceless ancient primordial Dragon that is the all)

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Thanks for the clue. For now I’m trying to figure out who or what connects to those ruins. The working hypotheses then I will evaluate them.

I have now put in my avatar a face of very ancient statues, probably dating back to the same period of the ruins or perhaps more. I do not believe it is the image of those entities, or maybe yes. The statues are three meters tall and more, which reinforces for now the connection with the giants