This is a confusing subject for many and I have found myself confused at times but l think I might know now, what do you guys think of this explanation.
E A Koetting has used the term Ascent to mean one and the same.
In a way it is and isn’t.
E A has got to the top and merged himself with God. That is ascension. It is also ascent as in spiritual growth, but to continue to ascent would mean not to stay there but to come back down. From there you can become a bodhisattva and help others reach God. But if you want to continue to ascent, you would either find growth in helping others reach God, or you can become a dark messiah and lead yourself and others in dark ascent.
So when I hear people say they want to ascend with Asmoday, as lovely as Asmoday is, this sounds odd. Perhaps it is spiritual growth to work with Asmoday, but that’s not ascension and reaching God. Would it still count as ascent without reaching that ascended state first? Can one reach a point of dark mastery where there is no return?